Tiger attacks boy in Elgin - Page 3

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 03:46 PM

what i ment by racist is ....i black person steals something...you cant go and say all black people steal....just like pitbulls...one pitbull bites and ya cant go and label the whole breed biters!

adam

ReptiliansDOTca · 06-15-04, 03:51 PM

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I concur. The responsibility lies solely with the owner. I couldn't get my dog to attack anyone for the life of me, it's just not in some dogs. In fact, I'm fairly sure that if I had an intruder do harm to me, from my lab I would get a few stern barks, and then she would try to make friends.

I think every dog is capable of biting if not raised properly. I have never had a dog owned by me bite or hurt anyone, other then myself. Any aggression must be dealt with as a puppy. My golden retriever bit me once seven years ago when I tried to take food away from her, as I was in the middle of training (taking her food anytime it is given to her to show her that I am the boss). It was dealt with strictly, and thus, she has never remotely tried to repeat that incident.

V.hb · 06-15-04, 03:55 PM

I read an article in the paper about this case. The guy that owns the tiger had it leashed.... What man could control a 350 pound cat on a leash? hahahaha he should be up on charges.

ReptiliansDOTca · 06-15-04, 03:56 PM

"what i ment by racist is ....i black person steals something...you cant go and say all black people steal....just like pitbulls...one pitbull bites and ya cant go and label the whole breed biters!"

That is a good point, but unfortunately we are almost at the point where it is fair to label every pitbull as aggressive - and it is no wonder as to why. With their reputation, a lot of responsible owners will not stray towards this breed. They are purchased a great deal of individuals who think a fighting dog contributes to a certain tough image.

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 03:56 PM

Two reasons why dogs are dogs.......

1.They have there own personalitys.

2.All the owners responsablity, to care and train. Without them being trained they become annoying and they will start biting

Meow

V.hb · 06-15-04, 03:57 PM

Also, I dont agree with the dog bit, where they have to be raised properly in order not to bite.

I have a rottweiller, hes 3 years old about 130. Hes a complete suck in the house, with anyone. The second he goes outside hes vicious, completely different dog. Iam responsible enough not to let anyone get near him. This has nothing to do with my training, its the dogs instinct to guard and protect.

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 03:59 PM

thats where the personailty comes in

and im compeletiy agree, it is the dogs instinct to guard and protect.

Meow

V.hb · 06-15-04, 04:02 PM

Meow, this is why i dont agree with the pittbull/rotti thing, they're all individuals, and are more prone IMO to be aggressive. Doesn't make them bad pets, but makes it even more evident that the owner must take many precautions with their pet. Yes, alot of the time aggression comes from poor upbringing of the animal, but some dogs are just naturally far more aggressive. Not quite like a 350 lb tiger though. hahahah.... god, that guy wasn't thinking.

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 04:09 PM

lol i agree, we got o/t. It looks like everyone that owns a pitt or a rot, is disagreeing with people that are agaisnt them, maybe people would think differently if they owned one or did some reserach

my 2 cents

Meow

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 04:10 PM

its an arguement that if one side is chosen, you cant win. all factors need to be taken into acount. the breed, the upraising and the particular event. if you have a certain breed that is genetically supposed to be more aggressive then more care must be taken in the rasing of it.

my 2 cents

adam

ReptiliansDOTca · 06-15-04, 04:19 PM

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I have a rottweiller, hes 3 years old about 130. Hes a complete suck in the house, with anyone. The second he goes outside hes vicious, completely different dog. Iam responsible enough not to let anyone get near him. This has nothing to do with my training, its the dogs instinct to guard and protect.

Adam, with no intended offense or question to your ability to care for a dog, did you try correcting this issue while he was young, or even now?

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 04:21 PM

are you talking to me or V.hb?...sorry...kinda stupid over here ....cause i dont have a dog

ReptiliansDOTca · 06-15-04, 04:26 PM

Sorry, I was referring to V.hb.

And now that I look at it, V.hb does have a good point, in that some dogs are more naturally aggressive, and while I correct myself that not all vicious dogs are the result of their upbringing, I still stand to the fact that it is our responsibility to do everything in our power to correct the issue. Be it behaviour classes, corrective punishment or what not, we must ensure that our pets do not pose a threat to others. There are cases where the problem cannot be resolved, at which point it is our responsibility to ensure your dog is not a threat to others (ie. using a muzzle when outdoors, always having it on a leash, making sure he does not escape your premises, etc.)

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 04:29 PM

if everyone put a muzzle on their dog alot of these problems would be solved.

my 2 cents

adam

V.hb · 06-15-04, 04:53 PM

There was nothing to correct really, he wears a halty when outdoors, so thats probably the only way I 'accomidated' his aggression. I really don't think it can be corrected, its just something I as an owner need to be aware of in order to assure that my dog doesnt hurt anybody. Same kind of awareness the goof with the tiger should have taken into consideration.