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marisa · 02-19-04, 11:02 AM

Well you're pretty much alone in that. So don't you think it would be more educational and more conductive to this forum to keep your minor experience with housing together to yourself? Or at least share it in a way that you aren't calling people names, or being a jerk? Every person here actually gave reasons but you didn't give one reason that is benefical to the SNAKES to house together. There isn't one. I am sorry but that's the truth.

When you have a newbie come here to ask a question you generally want to give them the method which will come with most sucess. Fine your buddy keeps snakes together? That's nice. But to tell a person without experience this is o.k. and then let them do it IS wrong. They don't know their snakes, they aren't experienced at keeping the enviroment perfect, they wouldn't know if problems are arising like your buddy might etc. So its ridiculous to suggest they should house their two snakes together.

But keep up the good fight. Maybe one day someone who counts will actually agree with you and we will all re-examine it. But, I doubt that. One person (you) coming here and telling everyone they are wrong sounds silly especially if you give no reasons or even try to asnwer how you avoid the common problems.

Don't you see why people would become defensive? You just throw it out and expect people to believe you.

Marisa

themangler · 02-19-04, 11:23 AM

Quote keep your minor experience with housing together to yourself?marisa have you kept two snakes together?(probably no)so who has minor experience!lol i have so thats why i type!Quote you didn't give one reason that is benefical to the SNAKES to house together. I didn't give a reason because there isn't a benefical reason to keep snakes together, I'm just saying I believe you can. Your opinion might be diffirent, so be it.

CHRISANDBOIDS14 · 02-19-04, 11:45 AM

Lets all stop the argumental Jibber Jabber now. I think it would be best for a new snake owner to keep the snakes seperate, because, as marisa said, they might now know to recodnize the signs of illness or bad husbandry. Lets all get along. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but what may seem better for the animals right now should be done. Cool?

Chris

snakehunter · 02-20-04, 03:38 PM

Mangler, if ther isnt a good reason to house two snakes in the same enclosure, then why do it?

do you think that the few people on this thread that think houseing two together are right, and that the infinite members who STRONGLY disagree are just idiots and that WE dont know wtf we are talking about.

I have made the housing mistake, and lost a snake to it, and the survivor has many problems becaues of it. this still haunts me to this day, and if the poor treatment of your herps does not disturb you, GET OF THE SITE! We are passionate keepers, and wish to spread good knowledge, and not rubish.

I suggest you pick up a copy of the BP manual and read it thuroughly.

woo, typing angrily makes me hungry!
-'cob

BoidKeeper · 02-20-04, 04:26 PM

snakhunter, passionate or not you can't tell someone to get off this site. This thread has to clean up or it will be closed.
Trevor

snakehunter · 02-20-04, 05:59 PM

Sorry, I appologize.

I was just enflamed by the general discussion. again, i appologize

mykee · 02-20-04, 06:09 PM

Trevor, I can't see this thread going anywhere but down. Unfortunate, but it's getting to be a common occurance lately...

BoidKeeper · 02-20-04, 07:00 PM

Some topics we just have to agree to disagree on I guess. As long as we present facts to back up our potions then it will be up to the individual to decided based on the facts presented who's advice to follow and who's to disregard.
snakehunter,
No worries man. We've all been there.
Trevor

Jeff_Favelle · 02-20-04, 07:21 PM

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Some topics we just have to agree to disagree on I guess. As long as we present facts to back up our potions then it will be up to the individual to decided

Heh heh....I don't have any "potions". Well, 'cept *** Potion #5, hee hee........

BoidKeeper · 02-20-04, 07:57 PM

Always a wise guy eh.
Do you ever let anything go pretty boy?
Trevor

Jeff_Favelle · 02-20-04, 09:02 PM

If it wasnt' so funny.....ha ha...I would have just ignored it. LOL! Ahhhh Chewie...always good for a chuckle....

Lisa · 02-20-04, 10:05 PM

Some one of note that keeps his snakes together is Bob Applegate. And it's not one or two boas or ball pythons... he keeps KINGSNAKES together. He's only had one issue of attemted cannibalism and no fatalities.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just posting this to make people think (not to mention marisa wanted something from some one notable that keeps snakes together).

marisa · 02-20-04, 11:30 PM

Well like I said in my post, its the telling someone who is NOT notable, not experienced, that its o.k..Bob Applegate has had YEARS to know these animals, breed them and watch behaviour....but yes perfect example.

It can obviously work, but why tell a newbie to "go ahead and try it" thats the scary part.

Ah well. In the end humans are humans and only do whats best for them in most situations.

Marisa

RaVeNo888o · 03-02-04, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by MouseKilla
I actually agree that they are your snakes and you can do what you want with them. Hell eat them, make a pair of boots with them if that's what you bought them for, meat's meat, leather's leather. If that's your angle then stress isn't a big issue.

I think some people may have missed what might have been one of the best points made in this thread relating to the actual topic.
MouseKilla was trying to get them to stop and think about this for a second. Why do they have the snakes in the first place? Most likely its because they wanted one as a pet becuase they seemed interesting, seeing as they were a beginner. The best interest should be in the snakes needs, and everything in our power should be done to try and make sure our pets live in comfortable circumstances. I highly doubt that a rubbermaid is not within the origional poster's power. But in their defence, before i started reading posts on this site, i would have never thought of putting a snake in a rubbermaid, so its not neccessarily that obvious to some.
At the same time, for some of us, and the more knowledgable of the members here, this issue is more like common sense to us. But to someone who is just getting into the hobby, there being a problem with houseing two snakes together may not be something they thought of, I would commend them for even coming here to ask. If they did not care at all about the care of the animal, then they would not have even stumbled accross this site. (not that i don't aggree that they should read back threads on the subject, god knows i spent many hours reading well back into the forums of interest to me. And not that i dont think people entering the hobby should do their research, but truth is that many people didn not know that it was so complex or that there really was anything to research in the first place. Afterall, to the general public, the petstore knows wut they are talking about. It is their job being a pet store to know about the pets right?

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This post wasnt really directed at any specific members or posts, rather just trying to put it all into perspective. In short, remember why it is that you got the pet in the first place..to CARE for them. If to you, cared for = living without obvious physical problems, then maybe you should revive that pet rock you had back in kindergarden, i hear that they are quite communal.