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03-17-04, 05:46 PM
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Thanks for the info Aug, now that i am giving a second thought on this...maybe it was from the spray for the fleas...i don't know for sure, just a thought.
~Greg~
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04-06-04, 03:00 PM
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LOL!!! Put the mouse clippers away dude... I am thinking Barbershop not Photoshop LMAO
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04-07-04, 08:41 AM
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This happened to one of my colonies too. I changed the male in it to get the group back to normal. Ifelt sorry for the little hairless guys they were probably cold.
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04-18-04, 06:08 PM
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YummyCdnMale, do you think with 20 reptiles, thousands of mealworms and crickets, hundreds of mice and rats, with a job 6 days a week and with a girl that i have to devote many hours together with her, do you think, after all that, i have the time to shave HOPPER mice?
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Peter Ludwig, it is strange, don't you think?
The same colony bred 2 more of those hairless mice but this time a little fuzzier. I will take a pic when i will have the time
~Greg~
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04-20-04, 12:56 PM
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LOL, they were cute. Being albino that might explain why they look underdeveloped?
But anyways, if anyone here happens to be a rat fancier (as I am), they might know of the hairless rat, as well as the double rex, double velveteen, mock hairless, nude, mock velveteen, and etc.
Those same kind of genes exsist in mice, though it hasn't been as strongly studied.
However, any hairless variety usually has a short life span, as their immune systems were compromised when they were developed (as a hairless breed).
They are interesting to keep (I have a few hairless rats right now). Many females are either sterile or do not lactate. As well, they are allergic to most beddings, including Aspen. But, they do not get cold if they are kept with furred cage mates. In the summer you have to keep them cool, as they have difficulty regulating their temperature, and if near any windows, they must have sunblock put on them or you'll cook them.
They actually feel very warm to the touch, and while they are funny looking to people who have never seen them before, they are very rewarding if you have the right temperment and genetics.
And manxing is also quite common, though to get a true and healthy manx rat (not sure about mice), you need to breed a tailed manx carrier female to a related manx male. Then you might get some manx babies in the litter.
As for value, the only way they are worth anything is if you can continue the line without inbreeding. The healthier the line, and the better the animals, the more money you can make. If you can improve the line to live longer, and carry these traits without having to resort to massive inbreeding, then you can sell them for higher prices. But if not I truly don't see fanciers buying them if they are not proven to have healthy backgrounds.
I guess it is the same for people who breed herps. The healthier the animal, and the better the pedigree, the more value it and it's offspring will have.
Hope this doesn't sound like I am being nasty, that wasn't my point in any way Just being a fanatic of rat genetics, I had to pipe up
~Tara
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04-20-04, 01:11 PM
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They're called Skinny mice, there are also skinny pigs (guinea pigs) and skinny rats as well. Being that not alot of people have ever heard of them I would just call them lion mince until someone corrects you I like that better.
Alecia
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04-20-04, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan
They're called Skinny mice, there are also skinny pigs (guinea pigs) and skinny rats as well. Being that not alot of people have ever heard of them I would just call them lion mince until someone corrects you I like that better.
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Actually, for the most part they are not known as skinny rats, it depends on the variety (my post above lists a few).
~Tara
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Spotteds: Malfoy
Geckos: Spirit & Aimee
Bearded Dragon: Ally
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Non-herps: Tico (Maltese/Poodle), Bo (Maine Coon x), Kahlua (Tortie/Siamese x), Bailey (Maine Coon x), & plenty of hairless and satin rats!
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04-20-04, 03:32 PM
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I know there are many varieties of mice. I have a friend who breeds and shows rats. When just there head has hair they are sold under the name 'skinny rat'. At least wherever she breeds and shows them, they are. I'm sure they are called other names as well... like 'lion mice!' She has rex's and hairless and much more also. Petsmart also has carried 'Skinny Pigs'.
Alecia
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04-20-04, 08:45 PM
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Yes I have heard skinny pigs, but never skinny mice, nor skinny rats. As a rattery, that is why I spoke up....just have never bought/sold/traded/produced a skinny rat. Name sounds very odd to me
~Tara
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Balls: Xander, Anya, Jive
Spotteds: Malfoy
Geckos: Spirit & Aimee
Bearded Dragon: Ally
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Non-herps: Tico (Maltese/Poodle), Bo (Maine Coon x), Kahlua (Tortie/Siamese x), Bailey (Maine Coon x), & plenty of hairless and satin rats!
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04-20-04, 09:20 PM
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Yes I have heard skinny pigs, but never skinny mice, nor skinny rats. As a rattery, that is why I spoke up....just have never bought/sold/traded/produced a skinny rat. Name sounds very odd to me
~Tara
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Balls: Xander, Anya, Jive
Spotteds: Malfoy
Geckos: Spirit & Aimee
Bearded Dragon: Ally
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Non-herps: Tico (Maltese/Poodle), Bo (Maine Coon x), Kahlua (Tortie/Siamese x), Bailey (Maine Coon x), & plenty of hairless and satin rats!
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04-20-04, 09:46 PM
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Ya I think it's a stupid name too. Maybe she was mistaken... I have no idea, that's just what she told me.
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04-21-04, 12:28 AM
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Probably as more people become aware of the animals....lets hope anyways! Those names are rather silly
~Tara
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Balls: Xander, Anya, Jive
Spotteds: Malfoy
Geckos: Spirit & Aimee
Bearded Dragon: Ally
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Non-herps: Tico (Maltese/Poodle), Bo (Maine Coon x), Kahlua (Tortie/Siamese x), Bailey (Maine Coon x), & plenty of hairless and satin rats!
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