why the hell does this happen to me? - Page 3

JIMI · 05-29-03, 05:35 PM

Maybe you were sleep walking. if your door was closed, cat wasnt inside the room and you say someone had to of done it.... plus you said you found one in your bag even though it was closed. maybe you sleepwalked, put one snake in your bag and sadly crushed or killed one of your snakes. sounds bad. hope that's not the case.

Zoe · 05-29-03, 06:01 PM

Well, I really doubt that. First of all, I've never sleepwalked in my life. Second, because when people sleep walk, they don't do things. They just walk around.

Also, my bag was closed, but it would be possible that the bag was open a few cms. I just find it strange that the snake would go there of all places.

asphyxia · 05-29-03, 06:17 PM

I think the cat was in the room when the door was shut at night.

Matt_K · 05-29-03, 06:19 PM

Zoe, do you know for sure you have never sleep walked (if that makes sense :P ).. Ever since my brother was a kid he has walked in his sleep, even to this day. My sister in law has told us stories of my brother getting up in the middle of the night and moving the TV around, straightening a picture or opening the drapes and closing then again, all while he was asleep.. He swears on his life that this never happened but i have seen him do things first hand.. I'm Really sorry for your loss no matter how it happened!!

Zoe · 05-29-03, 06:25 PM

Brian, she wasn't. She sits at my door and meows at night when I don't let her in. Even if she was, she couldn't have opened the drawer, definitely not all the way. Nor could she have closed the drawer on a snake exiting the cage. Lastly, those gashes really didn't look cat-inflicated.

Anyway, it wasn't the cat.

Matt - Yes, I know I don't sleepwalk. My father is in the habit of staying up till 4am (or later), working, and would no doubt have observed this and have told me if I slept walked.

Zoe

JKUROSKI · 05-29-03, 07:38 PM

If the cat meows at your door all night maybe one of your parents let it in and don't want to fess up now.

A cat could have clawed the drawer open a little and then got inside to play with the snake. On it's way out opening it all the way. Moving on to the next drawer it could have opened it a little and when the snake poke it's head out jumped at it and closed the door on it and swatted it to death. Or the snake could have just sqeezed it's way out self inflicting those wounds.

What type of drawers are we talking about here. If they are what I think they are...they are hardly escape proof.

Zoe · 05-29-03, 07:43 PM

My dad never lets it in. Why would he let the cat in then take it out and close my door again?

They are plastic drawers that have been snake proofed. They have no cracks, click into place and can't be opened unless the handle is lifted and pulled.

depressor86 · 05-29-03, 07:55 PM

what is your dad saying about all this?
and nobody heard any of this happen?

Zoe · 05-29-03, 08:01 PM

What is my dad supposed to say? What noises would have come from a closed room, exactly?

I really don't think this will resolve itself unless I new piece of information is put forward. Frankly I don't really want to think about it anymore, constantly knowing you're not fit to take care of living animals is not exactly comforting. In a way I hope I get over it soon and resume normal activities, but i don't know.

Zoe

sara · 05-29-03, 08:35 PM

wow, that really sucks Zoe, i'm so sorry. Stuff like this happens to everyone, in some respects it's better not to know exactly what took place.
Coincidentally I do have some good news for you, pm me if you're up for it. (cresties!)

Zoe · 05-29-03, 08:57 PM

Thanks,
Yeah, I know. Still though, it's hard to hard to handle. I probably sound like I'm feeling sorry for myself which isn't at all my intention.

Great sara! I'll pm you now.

Linds · 05-29-03, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt_K
Ever since my brother was a kid he has walked in his sleep, even to this day. My sister in law has told us stories of my brother getting up in the middle of the night and moving the TV around, straightening a picture or opening the drapes and closing then again, all while he was asleep.. He swears on his life that this never happened but i have seen him do things first hand..

Hahaha for sure! I've seen friends do some crazy stuff in their sleep... an old friend of mine used to get up and walk to the store every morning in his underwear...lmao

Never remebered doing it... the employees just tolerated it... but sure enough every morning like clockwork.....lol... I;ve even been known to do silly stuff like go to the fridge and take food to bed with me or just eat a bunch of condiments....lmao

Nobodies ever seen me sleepwalk though... and theres always someone home...

Quote:

Originally posted by JKUROSKI
If the cat meows at your door all night maybe one of your parents let it in and don't want to fess up now.

Always a possibility. Nobody will fess up to letting one of the dogs into the basement the one day... now I know a Jack Russel cannot unbolt a door at the top, open the door, and procede

All my rodents are in the basement and the dog killed (and set free a few) all the mice in the bottom level of the rack and several of the rats from the second level. Grrrrrrrr

Zoe,
Sorry to hear about the catastrophe... is there anyway you could post pics of your setup?

JIMI · 05-30-03, 12:21 PM

Actually Zoe, when you sleepwalk you can do alot of things. One time my brother got up, went downstairs past my parents... he grabbed a jug of lemonade and a tablespoon... he went back upstairs... woke me up and placed them beside my bed saying "here's your medicine" and he walked away. you'd be amazed what you can do while you're sleeping.

since you're insisting there's no way the cat got inside the room then it was either you or a ghost

do you think the snake that got out could of killed the snake that got crushed somehow? i couldnt picture it.

could be a ghost! one time my ex was babysitting these two kids and the one kid had a habit of getting up in the middle of the night and sleepwalking.. she hurt herself a couple times falling and stuff. so her parents tied a piece of string at the top of the door to keep it shut .... my ex went upstairs and found the girl standing outside the door. and when she asked how the girl got out she said "the man let me out" and the string was still tied in a bow at the top of the door, where the kid couldnt reach. the other girl was still inside the room. and there was no way out of the room.

freaky..

JIMI · 05-30-03, 12:22 PM

it may be macob but I think if we had pictures of the wounds and the situation the dead snake was found in..... that'd help us help you understand what happened

JIMI · 05-30-03, 01:01 PM

OK.. I think I've got it.

here's how it went down.
1) the one which was pinned between the drawers did that to itself.... it squished between the frame and the bin. I think that is entirely possible, because there are always stories of snakes getting out of seemingly escape proof enclosures.

2) that snake didnt die right away, it got out half way or whatever.. and you know how snakes will wrap the upper part of thier boddies under the lip of the tank, or a branch to kinda pull thier bodies through? well maybe it wrapped under the lip of the container, or handle or whatever there was... and pulled one of the drawers open in an attempt to pull the rest of its body through that small crack.

3) then the other snake attacks it... smells a mouse on the snake maybe, because they recently ate I think. and it attacks, biting the head causing those injuries.

4) the freed snake leaves the box and hides in Zoe's bag.

if there was no cat, no sleepwalking, no nothin.. that's got to be how it happened!