Reptile basics RHP help - Page 3

sattva · 03-28-17, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

Some of the biggest scammers with some of the absolute worst products have had very professional looking websites. It means nothing and shouldn't be a reflection on how a business is run nor shoyld it really affect how confident you are in dealing with someone, honestly. Please don't use this as a gauge for business or you may make a bad mistake.

I don't want to start a debate here, but I don't know how you can say this... A business's web site absolutely should be a reflection of their business... I don't know how he can sell anything with this site... It's like going to your favorite store and see nothing but trash in the window!

sattva · 03-28-17, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by trailblazer295

Saying his competitors are not safety tested may sound negative but it's a factual statement. Pro products panels are the only panels that are tested and must meet recognized safety standards. It isn't necessary down there but is up here. That doesn't change the fact that one product is UL ULC and CE listed and the other is not tested by anyone. They are made and sold and only in house testing would be done.

It's your choice what you want to use. I know a lot of members use RBI panels without issue. Personally I like when a product is independently tested to strict safety standards.

I agree that UL ULC and CE listed is a good thing but it also drives the price up... Reptile basics has been selling panels for 20 years and if they were a big fire problem, they would go away like hoverboard...

**Andy_G** · 03-28-17, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sattva

I don't want to start a debate here, but I don't know how you can say this... A business's web site absolutely should be a reflection of their business... I don't know how he can sell anything with this site... It's like going to your favorite store and see nothing but trash in the window!

It's not a debate nor will it develop into one I don't think, but I would be happy to explain how exactly I can say this as it's very easy to do so and for me to come to this conclusion. A lot of people in the industry that have been around for a while aren't always tech savvy and don't always see it as an asset to be so. I know of lots of people who don't even have a business page on facebook that I would happily deal with, no hesitation. A webpage does not make a business. Perfect example...about 10 years ago a business here in Canada with a really nice state of the art website and a good name only to new people coming into the hobby scammed some people out of a lot of money by misrepresenting what they were selling. Litigation occured. If you want to rely on how someone builds a website to judge how they conduct business that's just fine Sattva, all I am saying is don't let that be the ONLY thing.

sattva · 03-28-17, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

It's not a debate nor will it develop into one I don't think, but I would be happy to explain how exactly I can say this as it's very easy to do so and for me to come to this conclusion. A lot of people in the industry that have been around for a while aren't always tech savvy and don't always see it as an asset to be so. I know of lots of people who don't even have a business page on facebook that I would happily deal with, no hesitation. A webpage does not make a business. Perfect example...about 10 years ago a business here in Canada with a really nice state of the art website and a good name only to new people coming into the hobby scammed some people out of a lot of money by misrepresenting what they were selling. Litigation occured. If you want to rely on how someone builds a website to judge how they conduct business that's just fine Sattva, all I am saying is don't let that be the ONLY thing.

Well you you guys have given me a lot to think about... Does anybody have Bob's email address?

trailblazer295 · 03-29-17, 06:19 AM

promist@comcast.net

sattva · 03-29-17, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trailblazer295

promist@comcast.net

Thanks trailblazer... I'll check him out...

sattva · 03-29-17, 11:36 AM

Here is his recommendations for george's new cage...

For this reason, the cage you describe with the specifications given and a room temperature that can get down to 70 degrees, I would recommend our Pro Heat model PH-12, 300 BTU/h, 88 watt, 12" x 24" x 1" panel mounted approximately 6" from one end of the cage and our model PH-3, 222 BTU/h, 65 watt, 12" x 18" x 1" radiant panel mounted about 18" to 24" from the PH-12 panel. They will be able to create a variable basking area and gradual gradient across the cage. Our panels can be controlled with any brand of thermostat to create a desired temperature range. Pro Heat radiant panels are the only panels sold that can be mounted directly to the inside top of the cage against any surface without any risk of damaging the material or ever causing a fire. The cost of the model PH-12 is $114.95 and the PH-3 is $94.95. S&H to the lower 48 would be $22.95 for these two panels.

I'd have to pay almost pay twice as much for the panels and get a thermostat that will handle two... I think I should roll the dice with Reptile basics...

dannybgoode · 03-29-17, 01:36 PM

Personally that sounds like a very considered response from a knowledgeable guy.

I'd pay the money as I don't skimp on the basics that keep my reptiles alive and well although I appreciate it is a chunk of change.

On the other hand you'll have them for years so see it as a long term investment.