Have Experience? (another rant) - Page 3

jjnnbns · 08-14-04, 04:06 PM

Here is a great article on the subject posted on VPI's website:

http://www.vpi.com/9VPITipsAndTechs/...Experience.htm

It is an interesting read... the only thing that I don't like is that experience doesn't always lead to education...

some people who argue don't even know how to spell experience, yet argue about how much of it people can have.

I am by no means an expert, or even close. But I do read/research everything that I can find on snakes and my collection has grown tremendously as I have found which species would be great for me. I am also now just beginning to work on the experience thing.

I always take things with a grain of salt, because the internet is full of BS as well.

Brent Strande

PS, I used to look for 'experts' based on how many posts one person may have... but as Mykee has pointed out, someone can have a TON of posts, yet the majority of them are worthless.

CamHanna · 08-14-04, 04:15 PM

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some people who argue don't even know how to spell experience, yet argue about how much of it people can have.

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experiance

Oopsidaisies, sorry about that.

JeffT · 08-14-04, 04:16 PM

One of the best threads ive read on here in a long time! I agree 100% with everything you mentioned.

And next to noobs giving false info, my biggest pet peeve is COMPULSIVE buyers! People who look at a pic on here, and automaticly decide they NEED that animal, or people who get a brand new thing every week and fail to properly read and care for the animal. Not an uncommon thing to see in the General Lizard/ varanid /gecko forums.

Katt · 08-14-04, 04:18 PM

OMG Jeff! I NEED a mountain dew, put me on the list for a pair!

Rikki · 08-14-04, 04:20 PM

Ok, people have there own opinions. Though i am expirienced with reptiles but even the most expirienced have questions. And a forum is a place where you can ask questions, and i stated ive heard about those issues. Lets not fight guys

Matt_K · 08-14-04, 04:31 PM

Rikki, you have stated you're experienced with Reptiles a few times now.. Im just curious, what experience do you have?? What have you owned and for how long?? And by the way, working in a pet store, doesn't count as experience..

-Matt

bistrobob85 · 08-14-04, 04:41 PM

Yeah, i wrote something about that on another thread too...

Rikki · 08-14-04, 04:52 PM

At the pet stort i work with a 11 ft burm, i own a nile, iguana, 2 red ear sliders, and a ball python. I owned a 5ft Iguana raised from a hatchling which i sold when we moved (

)..... Ive been in the reptile hobby for 4 years and all of my animals are in excellent condition.

Matt_K · 08-14-04, 04:57 PM

So, the pet store allows you ALONE to work with this 11' burm? And DO you work with it alone??? From my personal Experience, handling an 11' burm alone is a no no.. And I gurantee, im 3 times your size..

Anyone can claim that their animals are in excellent condition, there is really no way to prove that.. Even pics aren't proof.. Anyone can clean their cages for a couple pics and then let everyone go to hell again.. But, i'll take your word for it and give you the benefit of the doubt, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions..

Rikki · 08-14-04, 05:05 PM

No worries, i understand from your point of view. And no i dont work with the burm alone, i have before but i usually work with my friend John (15). Ive fed him alone and cleaned his cage alone, but i always show him with some one else. Never been bit, you get to know his body launguage.

jparker1167 · 08-14-04, 05:12 PM

I got my first bp around 9 years ago, and still consider myself a beginner. I am getting into other snakes now and have lots of questions but instead of posting the question and waiting for someone to answer it for my I use the search to find it. I'm looking to get a borneo blood within a year, but not I'm not sure if I'm ready so Im reading the python curtus forum from the beginning. sorry for the long post but I had nothing else to do.

capsicum · 08-14-04, 09:02 PM

I have hesitated in replying to this post only because I know that I am deffinately a newbie in keeping reptiles

Also too, I ask a lot of questions regarding various animals, and mention a few that I would love to have (such as the burm which my husband and I have decided not to get, simply because we want to start a family sooner rather than later), but I hope that people don't think of me as some one who would get just about anything for any old reason

I do love animals and have been reading about animals since I was very little. I am new to reptiles and even newer to amphibians (I once had a newt, my first pet that I researched and saved up for when I was 9 years old).

Obviously I have been reading lots of books, websites, care sheets, newsletters, magazines, and forums regarding these creatures, as I would never want to harm any one of them by doing something wrong.

But anyways, I am greatful to the honest and intelligent people on this forum who have been gracious enough to offer their experience and opinions to all of my questions - Thank You

TK

Dom · 08-15-04, 02:32 PM

So much Ranting .. lol

One thing really struck me .. Sorry to point you out Rikki but its very easy to see who has and does not have experience ..

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Originally posted by Rikki
No worries, i understand from your point of view. And no i dont work with the burm alone, i have before but i usually work with my friend John (15). Ive fed him alone and cleaned his cage alone, but i always show him with some one else. Never been bit, you get to know his body launguage.

This ones paragrah gives it away and yet you still claim to be an experienced herper..

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Though i am expirienced with reptiles

Can you see all your mistakes??

Anyway .. As I said b4 .. the only way to know someone information right is to know it b4 hand ..

Ussually what I do if I have a question is research it and find as many responses as possible and the make and educated guess considering all the answers I have found.. the information is out there .. you just need to be able to weed out the bs..

marisa · 08-15-04, 03:41 PM

I never said a 15 year old COULDN'T know as much as a 45 year old. But I DID say a 45 year old who has owned herps all their life MOST DEFINITLY has more experience than a 15 year old simply because of time. You cannot argue that. They can have potientially 30 more years experience than a 15 year old could possibly have no matter how many reptiles that 15 year old has. Period.

Not to say I reject teenagers advice as many are as knowledgable as an adult. It all depends on the individual.

Marisa

mykee · 08-15-04, 03:53 PM

Exactly Marisa, there are a few people who are young and I would consider them to be both terribly mature, and highly knowledgeable when it comes to herps. One in particular that comes to mind is Jordan. Though I have personally never met him, and I don't think we have any reptiles in common, what I have read of his posts, he is highly mature, very knowledgeable, and he's what? 16? It's unfortunate that there are not more like him, regardless of age out there.