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02-21-16, 06:34 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
You're making me want one!!!! You're both a bad influence.
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02-21-16, 06:57 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Hehehe bad influences everywhere! I'm really enjoying her so far. She hangs on so that even though she's tiny, I'm not afraid of dropping her like I'm still afraid with my king. She doesnt hang on as well as my rainboa and she also moves much more than he does so she's a sort of mix between the two as far as handling goes. I also see her more often. I check on my rainboa every couple days at least (usually uncover him and pet his side to laugh at the way it moves) and I can go a week or more without even seeing my king poke her head out so having a snake that is more active and out almost every afternoon has been really cool. In the research i did before purchasing, I didnt run across their activity level, at least not in a way that stuck out. I kind of assumed they would be more like sand boas who you hardly ever see. I need to fiddle with her set up. Her hot spot was getting up to 91... With the thermostat set off... At 9pm when it was 70some in my house. I've turned down the thermostat to help keep it in the proper range. The uth is a Zoomed one so I cant place the probe between the mat and the glass and it was only the center of the heat mat, under the cork log, that was getting that hot. Her cage remains around 87 for her hot spot. Over 90 with no added heat can be very dangerous when the temps start to rise afterall. She's utilizing all parts of her cage. Cool side and hot side, scaling corners, and crawling over the cork so she doesnt seem to be bothered by the temps at least.
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02-21-16, 07:12 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
I might change my opinion of holding a super tiny snake but I'm more afraid with holding my gecko who pulls daredevil jumps. One thing to drop a tiny snake but it's another to have a lizard jump from 5ft in the air like a superhero. First time her back feet caught my arm while front were spread out while I was standing on a concrete floor. Scared the crap out of me.
I have another month to mull it over as I won't make this expo so have to wait until end of March.
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02-21-16, 07:15 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
I havent experienced her trying to flee or fly away from me. My king does that every once in a while and that is scary but Hoggle seems content to weave in and out of my fingers. I can upload a video of me handling her to youtube if you'd like? I have a couple including one of me letting her on the counter and picking her up which shows more variety in handling.
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02-21-16, 07:18 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Sure that would be great.
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02-21-16, 07:32 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Hogs really are great 'everything' snakes. Display, hamdle, personality, relatively easy feeders (i can't keep ambient temps up where I'd like because cresties are in thesame room and I can't let it get above 80, but I have noticed that on warmer days, they are far more acrive than when it's 75 in the room).
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02-21-16, 08:08 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
I don't suppose Hoggle is a name in reference to a certain film containing a fabulous goblin king is it?
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02-21-16, 08:31 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Yes it is! My mom suggest something related to Hogwarts and I went "In that case, why not Hoggle? It works for a girl too." and it stuck. It's very hard for me to joke about names... They end up sticking. It broke my god naming theme. Eir and Xango are both gods.
Also heres the video Hoggle
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02-22-16, 07:46 AM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Reminds me of side winder rattle snake. So much wriggling and movement but not much forward movement.
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02-29-16, 05:37 AM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Hoggle got her aspen upgrade tonight! I was supposed to feed her and ended up doing this instead so she'll get fed tomorrow. I've been shooting for every 5ish days but I slipped up this week so I'll probably give her a little extra. Couldn't feed her after the stress of the upgrade and handling tonight of course. Won't hurt her any. She seems to be liking this whole aspen thing so far. I also think she seems to be making friends with my cat... One of my cats who never pays attention to my snakes has been sitting and watching her recently. I caught her almost nose to nose with a curious Hoggle with the screen between them and Hoggle all stretched out towards here. Strange creatures... She's still not allowed up by the snake's cage.
Her cage looks so nice now!
And she gained a half inch in the last 10 days! [No weight though which tells me that her feeding schedule is off [duh]]
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04-17-16, 10:10 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
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04-17-16, 10:33 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Cute little critter .
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04-18-16, 12:35 AM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
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New Hoggle pics! She's up to 14g but I don't have an updated length. Can't wait for the day she gets off of pinkies...
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Meh, my female thayeri is off mouse pinkies, takes rat pinks now, and tried for an index finger the other night. Guess I shouldn't have reached in there w/out offering food first, lol. I house her with the male, but separate them for feeding. No problems picking up either one once they have a mouthful of food, or after it's down the hatch. This wasn't a defensive strike or bite, she simply clamped onto my finger apparently thinking it was edible, and held on for a minute before she let loose. Had to run cold water over her one time she tried to eat my finger, she was actually starting to work her jaws around the tip to swallow it. Actually a very mellow disposition in general, but seems a bit confused about the difference between fingers and food. Not a scent issue, I hadn't been handling any mice before I reached in to pick her up. Just saw her roaming around the tank and figured I'd handle her while she was out and about already. Not something I'd particularly want to deal with in a hognose, I'd prefer not to find out through experience how I'd react to their relatively mild venom.
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04-18-16, 01:34 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
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Originally Posted by Lefitte
I havent experienced her trying to flee or fly away from me. My king does that every once in a while and that is scary but Hoggle seems content to weave in and out of my fingers. I can upload a video of me handling her to youtube if you'd like? I have a couple including one of me letting her on the counter and picking her up which shows more variety in handling.
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Great progression story Lefitte. The hoggie looks fantastic! Good job. Thanks for the vid also.
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04-18-16, 11:20 PM
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Re: Meet Hoggle! Aka my friends are all enablers.
Thanks EL!
Thankfully the only time I've been bitten so far was the tiniest of nips by my brb when I tried to "recapture" him. Hoggle's pretty much always chill and I use tongs to feed everyone. I have to push the food into her mouth, even the time I skipped a feeding accidentally she wss still super mellow about it. I'm considering another place to put her cage though because my cats have been pretty bad about watching her and pawing at the cage.
It's been a lot of fun getting to know her. Each one of my cnakes is so very different. Hoggle is super mellow, holds on a little and moves like a worm weaving through my fingers and forcing her way through then with her nose. My kingsnake Eir is turning two years soon but she's still super flighty, angree pees in me, rattlesnake tails every time I take her out and is generally always pissy. Xango my 10mo brb is sweet as a puppy. He's so chill about everything that if I described him to someone they'd probably think he was a ball python. When I take him out to the petstore with me people are like "he doesn't bite?" and I go and pet his head before he curls back around my neck. Nope. Not at all.
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