Oh....Emm...Gee....new snakes!. - Page 3

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 08:38 AM

Don't worry about the eyecap just keep humidity up. It will.come off the next shed.

And i have bps that soak. Usually if they're coming up to a shed or if it's not as humid as usual.

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

I usually quarantine for 30 days. As far as the retained shed and eyecap you can put a couple of drops of mineral oil on a q tip to moisturize the area. You should bump up the humidity as well and that should shed off with her next shed cycle. Don't feed her until you have her well hydrated first. Do the pedialite or Gatorade mixed in the soaking water. A 50 / 50 mix is ok. Don't forget to retreat for the mites after 30 days to kill off the eggs and any remaining mites. Good luck.

No to all of this.

No mineral oil. No Gatorade. And if you are using an electrolyte it's pedialyte and at most its 3:1 water to electrolyte.

Why not Gatorade? Well because it's full of artificial color, added sugars and other things. Unflavored pedialyte and pedialyte in General has less crap added to it since its suited for babies.

The snake will let go of the cap itself.

**Minkness** · 07-05-15, 10:39 AM

Thanknyou Lady B for the corrections. I knew not to use Garoraide for the reasons you mentioned and have used pedialite on 2 baby rescue squirrels in the past with great success, so that did make sense.

I would never force a shed off. I just got lucky that the shed and other eye caps came off after a good while soaking. When the last one wouldn't come off, I left it alone.

Thank you everyone for your support. =)

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 10:46 AM

No problem! If you have any other questions fire away

Albert Clark · 07-05-15, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

Albert, not sure if you read the whole post, but I got all the shed off except the 1 retained eyecap. I don't think she's dehydrated at all since according to her last owner all she did was soak in a huge water dish. (For her size, that water dish was a swimming pool lol). As for the mites, I am using an animal safe powder that kills all insect and acracnid eggs. So, once all the actual mites fall off or shed off due to the treatment, she should be good. =)

Good to know about the pedialite trick though if I ever do have a snake that is dehidrated.

And thanks DDW! I really love her all ready. Unlike Moko, she isn't shy. She perks out of her hide to watch me, and just now when I checked on her, she was out in the open just chilling.

I was referring to the remaining one eyecap. She is dehydrated as evidenced by the folds of skin seen on her sides in the picture. In any event good luck with them. The pedialite is not a trick, its a definitive way to replace fluid in a stressed , undernourished animal.

Jrich · 07-05-15, 01:40 PM

Do you have any pictures of the hoggies? Find that other one yet? Best of luck on that. Hopefully you find it and not someone else....

**Minkness** · 07-05-15, 01:56 PM

This is Emma, the female hoggie. I didn't get a chance to get a photo of the male before he disappeared. But he looked like a red albino I think. He was also super tiny. Like between 5-8 grams. As of now, no sign of the bugger. =/

Jrich · 07-05-15, 01:59 PM

Nice! Sounds like you got a steal with those snakes and the equipment!

**Minkness** · 07-05-15, 02:10 PM

I almost felt bad taking everything for what I paid, but I knew more would have to go into them when I got them home. Now if I could just find that little male x.x

I think if I went by market value, I got over 1k of snakes and supplies for measley 140$. So I'm still happy with it all, just wanna find that esscapee so he doesn't get eaten or stepped on. =/

Albert Clark · 07-05-15, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

No to all of this.

No mineral oil. No Gatorade. And if you are using an electrolyte it's pedialyte and at most its 3:1 water to electrolyte.

Why not Gatorade? Well because it's full of artificial color, added sugars and other things. Unflavored pedialyte and pedialyte in General has less crap added to it since its suited for babies.

The snake will let go of the cap itself.

Wrong! Gatorade is not FULL of artificial color, it has some. What it does have is electrolytes and that is what is needed to combat cases of dehydration and fluid replacement. If you read the Gatorade label it says "naturally flavored" with other natural flavors. Potassium and Sodium and Carbohydrates are the main ingredients in Gatorade. And sugars , that is what Gatorade has "FULL" of. The artificial color is so miniscule it's not even listed as a percentage or amount. It also has the endorsement of all major sports teams and running clubs and health organizations. So, it is a option in cases of mild to severe dehydration and fluid and electrolyte replacement.

mineral oil is a very safe and effective lubricant and laxative if needed. What " CRAP" are you saying about Gatorade?????? There is a G2 version of Gatorade that is a more dilute concentration if that's what someone may want to use. Gatorade is a safe fluid replacement.

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Wrong! Gatorade is not FULL of artificial color, it has some. What it does have is electrolytes and that is what is needed to combat cases of dehydration and fluid replacement. If you read the Gatorade label it says "naturally flavored" with other natural flavors. Potassium and Sodium and Carbohydrates are the main ingredients in Gatorade. And sugars , that is what Gatorade has "FULL" of. The artificial color is so miniscule it's not even listed as a percentage or amount. It also has the endorsement of all major sports teams and running clubs and health organizations. So, it is a option in cases of mild to severe dehydration and fluid and electrolyte replacement.

mineral oil is a very safe and effective lubricant and laxative if needed. What " CRAP" are you saying about Gatorade?????? There is a G2 version of Gatorade that is a more dilute concentration if that's what someone may want to use. Gatorade is a safe fluid replacement.

Ok. Mineral oil? Yea it won't kill it but why add extra stuff to it? The snake will shed fine without it. As long as she does what is right for husbandry it will resolve itself.

As for the Gatorade. You could soak what ever you want in whatever you want, BUT I disagree that its the best choice.

You're wrong. The.color that they use is on the label. It has to be. I know what I would rather use. It's up to you what you want to use.

The following labels are from Google. The first is the unflavored pedialyte, the second 2 are Gatorade and the last one is a Google search. Even in the flavored pedialyte it's under 2% of the ingredients. That's significantly lower than the Gatorade. Not to mention it lists both sugar and dextrose as the first 2 ingredients which means yes it's added sugar.

I'll say it again. Pedialyte is for babies. They're generally stricter on what goes into it.

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 04:23 PM

Second one not two here's the one I forgot

**Minkness** · 07-05-15, 04:27 PM

Thanks for the sources. I know Aaron is fond of them. =)

In either case, I don't think she needs it. I think she just needs a few meals in her belly and time to grow.

I looked at picking up rat pinks today, and those are too big for now. So, she will be fed 2 fuzzies twice a week for a while.

=)

Albert Clark · 07-05-15, 04:35 PM

OK. Cool but when you say Gatorade is full of artificial color , that statement is not true. If you look at what I said I recommended either or as a supplement. I am already privy to the literature, some may not be. It can also be a cost issue for some with pedialyte bc it expires so quickly and is expensive compared to Gatorade. That's all. I was only trying to help the person. I know about Gatorade and the literature, it is not a absolute no to using it in mild to severe dehydration. People have choices and they can choose to or choose not to. I was imparting information that's all. Pedialyte has artificial color as well.

**lady_bug87** · 07-05-15, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

Thanks for the sources. I know Aaron is fond of them. =)

In either case, I don't think she needs it. I think she just needs a few meals in her belly and time to grow.

I looked at picking up rat pinks today, and those are too big for now. So, she will be fed 2 fuzzies twice a week for a while.

=)

Lol Aaron is fond of what? Sources? Yea. He is. I agree she won't need it.

And Albert its Under 2% compared to Gatorade. Which i have no idea what percentage it is. You can make your own electrolyte. The unflavored one has neither flavoring or color. That's the one I have used.