Bizarre woma python affliction- anyone see something like this before? - Page 3

Donnie · 12-10-13, 12:43 PM

Good to hear you found out the reason and he is now on the mend.

gonesnakee · 02-11-14, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Thanks Derek,

These are my only Aspidites and I wasn't aware of their tendency to bite each other. I will be much more careful about letting them together in the future and only do it for a few days at a time, like you suggest. I appreciate any advice- I'm admittedly more knowledgeable on the vipers than pythons anymore.

They eat pretty much nothing but other reptiles in the wild & should be treated the same as Kingsnakes when breeding them, thus the chance of them killing each other, typically it is females that will attack males.
The males usually have other priorities on their minds, Mark

P.S. continual exposure to toxic chemicals (pest strips) is a BAD idea & is not a good preventative measure to have animals continually exposed to known toxins 24/7/365, I would be less worried about mites & more worried about the slow poisoning of all the animals in the room.

Will0W783 · 02-12-14, 08:41 AM

Mark, the pest strips were not in there permanently. After two weeks of the pest strips, I decided they weren't working, so I removed them, cleaned everything and treated with Nix. The mites were gone in days after the first Nix treatment.

The male woma recovered fully with antibiotics and is back to normal- they are no longer together, and I'm not sure if I'll try to breed them again.

**Tsubaki** · 02-12-14, 09:52 AM

happy to hear he made a full recovery!!

gonesnakee · 02-12-14, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Mark, the pest strips were not in there permanently. After two weeks of the pest strips, I decided they weren't working, so I removed them, cleaned everything and treated with Nix. The mites were gone in days after the first Nix treatment.

The male woma recovered fully with antibiotics and is back to normal- they are no longer together, and I'm not sure if I'll try to breed them again.

I was more referring to comments in some of the other posts where they come across as having them in there all the time, BAD IDEA.

As for trying again I would, just ensure they are well fed prior & don't leave them together too long.

I have personally never had an issue with mine ever & typically when I have had issues with other species such as KS it is in the first minute of introduction.

I have had females get set off by me when removing males as well (including Womas, almost had my thumb dislocated once DOH!), but never otherwise (touches wood) LOL
Basically if the animals are well fed & conditions are right they tend to breed & not try to feed.

In your case I'm thinking it was more as suggested above that she became annoyed with him over time, as once they go into feed (kill) mode they usually don't stop unless made too.

Folks must realize that with breeding comes certain risks, specially with snakes that can cannibalize each other & your story is a good one to share with them.

Glad to hear everything worked out OK in the long run for you & don't let it shut you down for breeding, incidents usually don't happen, but can as you have experienced, don't let it taint you.

Cheers Mark

Will0W783 · 02-13-14, 03:37 PM

Thanks Mark, I appreciate it. I might breed them again, but I'm actually considering narrowing down my collection to just my live-birthing vipers. I've been really busy with work and finances have been tight as of late. Fewer mouths to feed would probably help. It'd be hard to sell everything else though....

Sharlynn93 · 02-13-14, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Thanks Mark, I appreciate it. I might breed them again, but I'm actually considering narrowing down my collection to just my live-birthing vipers. I've been really busy with work and finances have been tight as of late. Fewer mouths to feed would probably help. It'd be hard to sell everything else though....

so sad that you may have to hone down your collection...but at least your lovely gaboons would make the cut

I LOVE to see your pics of them...they are my favorite venomous snake, and since I will never keep hots, I live through your wonderful pics!

KORBIN5895 · 02-13-14, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharlynn93

so sad that you may have to hone down your collection...but at least your lovely gaboons would make the cut

I LOVE to see your pics of them...they are my favorite venomous snake, and since I will never keep hots, I live through your wonderful pics!

This is why i find it so important to determine what you really want in your collection. It helps you avoid this situation. Unfortunately we've all been there.

Sharlynn93 · 02-13-14, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

This is why i find it so important to determine what you really want in your collection. It helps you avoid this situation. Unfortunately we've all been there.

totally understood...mine isn't that large at the moment...may be taking a different shift at work, one that will either limit my time, or even extend it depending on how I take to night shift...IF i take the job...have to decide by morning...which is why I am not jumping into anything else for a while...I DO still love the pics! (reiterating!) (hint hint!)