border
sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum
 

Go Back   sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum > Colubrid Forums > Thamnophis

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-16, 12:13 PM   #31
Aaron_S
Forum Moderator
 
Aaron_S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Toronto
Age: 39
Posts: 16,977
Send a message via MSN to Aaron_S
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
Um. I think you misread? That's exactly what I said. I said the white supers were limited to ball pythons. I listed a bunch of super forms of boa constrictors...I kinda realize supers aren't limited to ball pythons. As far as other white supers, I said I think it's mostly limited to ball pythons, because I see few other super forms in other snakes that result in all-white animals. The only super in boa constrictors that results in white animals is the super fire/White Diamond.
Retics and Burms each have a Lucy I believe.

But I'm being nitpicky.

Last edited by Aaron_S; 04-14-16 at 12:45 PM..
Aaron_S is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 12:29 PM   #32
macandchz
Member
 
Join Date: Jan-2016
Location: bethel park pa
Posts: 1,141
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

al, sometime you'll have to post a picture of where you keep all these snakes! i'm curious!
macandchz is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 03:07 PM   #33
RAD House
Member
 
RAD House's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec-2014
Location: Denver
Posts: 839
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
Um. I think you misread? That's exactly what I said. I said the white supers were limited to ball pythons. I listed a bunch of super forms of boa constrictors...I kinda realize supers aren't limited to ball pythons. As far as other white supers, I said I think it's mostly limited to ball pythons, because I see few other super forms in other snakes that result in all-white animals. The only super in boa constrictors that results in white animals is the super fire/White Diamond.
No I read fine, I just don't understand the point you are trying to make and how it helps explain anything. A white snake is not mutually exclusive of being a super in any snake. Not to mention the term super is not even really the correct term, but derivative slang of the ball python community.
__________________
R.A.D. house
RAD House is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 03:39 PM   #34
riddick07
Member
 
riddick07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep-2015
Posts: 663
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Pretty! Do you breed your California red Sided ones? My stepfather is dying to have one of those...apparently the snake thing is contagious lol
__________________
4.5 Chinese Beauty, 1.0 White Sided Rat, 0.1 Suboc, 0.1 Stillwater Hypo Bull, 1.0 50/50 Cal King, 6.7 Corns, 1.3.1 Ball Python, 7.15 BCI, 1.0 Jaguar Carpet, 2.2 Retics, 2.2 Wolf Snake, 0.1 BRB, 1.2 BCC Suriname, 1.1 Ridleyi Beauty, 0.1 False Water Cobra, 1.0 Bearded Dragon, 1.0 Halmahera BTS, 5.4 Parrots, 0.1 Cat, 1.0 Horse
riddick07 is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 04:17 PM   #35
Kokorobosoi
Member
 
Join Date: Feb-2016
Posts: 48
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

I can't wait to hear about those too! ��
Kokorobosoi is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 04-14-16, 05:04 PM   #36
SWDK
Member
 
SWDK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul-2012
Location: Mountain Top, PA
Age: 43
Posts: 1,084
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Thanks for all the info and pictures Albert. Sorry I seemed to have opened a can of worms with my question. Either way the the bottom line is they are beautiful snakes.
__________________
Dave
2 Black Rats,2 Retics,2 Texas Indigo,1 Albino Chinese Beauty,1 Bull,1 Black Milk,1 YT Cribo,1 Albino Garter,5 Corn Snakes,1 Brooksi,1 VBB,1 MBK,1 Bairds Rat,1 Albino Cal King,1 Pied BP,1 Dumerils Boa,2 Rattlesnakes
SWDK is offline  
Old 04-15-16, 02:01 PM   #37
bigsnakegirl785
Member
 
bigsnakegirl785's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug-2011
Location: Waynesville
Age: 30
Posts: 3,879
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron_S View Post
Retics and Burms each have a Lucy I believe.

But I'm being nitpicky.
Knew about the retic, didn't realize the Burm was a super. Makes sense I guess. haha

Quote:
Originally Posted by MesoCorney View Post
No I read fine, I just don't understand the point you are trying to make and how it helps explain anything. A white snake is not mutually exclusive of being a super in any snake. Not to mention the term super is not even really the correct term, but derivative slang of the ball python community.
My point was exactly what I said it was. That I see very few super forms of morphs that result in white snakes, and that I've mainly only seen white supers in ball pythons.

I said what I did to try clarify supers (listing super hypos, super motleys, etc.), and then making a statement that it doesn't always result in white snakes.

Whether it's a slang term reserved for ball pythons I didn't realize because it's used quite often with boa constrictors as well. Super is used in other snake communities so I figured it was all the same. I'm not sitting here trying to start drama, I'm not sure where all this is coming from, not trying to insult anyone with a use of a word or anything. I'm having a hard time understanding the vitriol.
__________________
3.3 BI Cloud, sunglow Nymeria, ghost Tirel, anery motley Crona, ghost Howl, jungle Dominika - 0.1 retic Riverrun - RIP (Guin, Morzan, Sanji, and Homura - BRBs, Bud - bp, Draco and Demigod - garters)
bigsnakegirl785 is offline  
Old 04-15-16, 03:53 PM   #38
Kokorobosoi
Member
 
Join Date: Feb-2016
Posts: 48
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Anyways.....those are some gorgeous animals!!! I think we need pics of them....in hats!
Kokorobosoi is offline  
Old 04-16-16, 06:51 PM   #39
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
I really like the lighter albinos, whether they're super pastels or not.
@ bsg , the lighter one in pic#2 right? I made a mistake calling them "supers". They probably are just a color mutation from two albino checkered parents.


Or like in boa constrictors, breeding hypo to hypo, jungle to jungle, Roswell to Roswell, motley to motley, so on and so forth. None of these result in all-white snakes, I think that's mostly limited to ball pythons.
That was my mistake. Said mojave to mojave, fire to fire would usually result in a all white snake. That was me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MesoCorney View Post
It has nothing to do with ball pythons it is the type of genetic trait which occur among numerous species in the entire animal kingdom including our selves. Not all "supers" or heterozygous incomplete dominant morphs are white even in the ball python world.
That was my error MC. Thanks again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Wise Owl View Post
Wow, congrats

I've thought about adding a pair of albino checkered garters to our family. They're pretty neat
Thanks LWO, I appreciate that. Garters are a special snake. Very alert and bordering on intelligent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirtalis View Post
Congrats man, thanks for the explanation about the super morphs Will you be holding any back for future breeding projects?
Thanks sir! Yes I will be holding back the albino pastel checkered and 1 of the high white albino checkered.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
Um. I think you misread? That's exactly what I said. I said the white supers were limited to ball pythons. I listed a bunch of super forms of boa constrictors...I kinda realize supers aren't limited to ball pythons. As far as other white supers, I said I think it's mostly limited to ball pythons, because I see few other super forms in other snakes that result in all-white animals. The only super in boa constrictors that results in white animals is the super fire/White Diamond.
My mistake bsg. I referred to it incorrectly. Thanks.
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 04-16-16, 07:11 PM   #40
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by macandchz View Post
al, sometime you'll have to post a picture of where you keep all these snakes! i'm curious!
Thanks mac. I have and I will.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MesoCorney View Post
No I read fine, I just don't understand the point you are trying to make and how it helps explain anything. A white snake is not mutually exclusive of being a super in any snake. Not to mention the term super is not even really the correct term, but derivative slang of the ball python community.
That was my mistake MC. My wording earlier. I mentioned that by breeding the homozygous form of codominate genes would yield a white snake always as a super.
Quote:
Originally Posted by riddick07 View Post
Pretty! Do you breed your California red Sided ones? My stepfather is dying to have one of those...apparently the snake thing is contagious lol
Yes I am. But they are still growing up. If you want one right now PM me and I will tell you where you can get one tomorrow. Serious!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokorobosoi View Post
I can't wait to hear about those too! ��
Koko, pm me for the reference to the breeder of the Calif red sideds. He just hatched out 26 babies! But they go fast so you will have to put in a order right away. I won't have any babies until next year.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWDK View Post
Thanks for all the info and pictures Albert. Sorry I seemed to have opened a can of worms with my question. Either way the the bottom line is they are beautiful snakes.
Yeah SW! YW. NP. It's a learning experience for everyone involved and that's what it's about. Thank you.
Albert Clark is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 04-16-16, 07:32 PM   #41
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokorobosoi View Post
Anyways.....those are some gorgeous animals!!! I think we need pics of them....in hats!
Thanks Koko! I think the hats would cover them up so as you wouldn't see them. I'll think of something though. Haha.
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 04-16-16, 08:16 PM   #42
bigsnakegirl785
Member
 
bigsnakegirl785's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug-2011
Location: Waynesville
Age: 30
Posts: 3,879
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Will you be posting all your 2016 checkered litters here, or just your albinos?
__________________
3.3 BI Cloud, sunglow Nymeria, ghost Tirel, anery motley Crona, ghost Howl, jungle Dominika - 0.1 retic Riverrun - RIP (Guin, Morzan, Sanji, and Homura - BRBs, Bud - bp, Draco and Demigod - garters)
bigsnakegirl785 is offline  
Old 04-16-16, 08:29 PM   #43
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
Will you be posting all your 2016 checkered litters here, or just your albinos?
I will be doing it on thamnophis and here as well. Thanks for all your help and consideration. I appreciate that. You like that albino checkered in pic#2 ? That high white albino ? Or were you referring to the albino pastel?

Last edited by Albert Clark; 04-16-16 at 08:34 PM..
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 04-17-16, 12:02 PM   #44
bigsnakegirl785
Member
 
bigsnakegirl785's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug-2011
Location: Waynesville
Age: 30
Posts: 3,879
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
I will be doing it on thamnophis and here as well. Thanks for all your help and consideration. I appreciate that. You like that albino checkered in pic#2 ? That high white albino ? Or were you referring to the albino pastel?
The lightest one in the first picture, I think that one's the pastel?
__________________
3.3 BI Cloud, sunglow Nymeria, ghost Tirel, anery motley Crona, ghost Howl, jungle Dominika - 0.1 retic Riverrun - RIP (Guin, Morzan, Sanji, and Homura - BRBs, Bud - bp, Draco and Demigod - garters)
bigsnakegirl785 is offline  
Old 04-17-16, 12:36 PM   #45
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: 2016 Albino Checkered..

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsnakegirl785 View Post
The lightest one in the first picture, I think that one's the pastel?
PM sent.....
Albert Clark is offline  
Login to remove ads
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:34 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002-2023, Hobby Solutions.

right