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03-13-12, 04:23 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Wasnt there a song about it in Mary Poppins?
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03-13-12, 04:26 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
So, im sure everyone has read minimum cage size for a sav is 6'x4'x4' to 8"x4'x4'. How does everyone feel about the 6 foot cage as an option? I feel bad im going to just have an 8' cage, i could not imagine a 6' for a 3.5' lizard? i think bare Min should be 8'
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03-13-12, 04:30 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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I think every monitor needs the same standards for a cage, but i think some will utalize the offered soil more than others imho. and Barleybreathing, Bobs your uncle is a very old english term, not so much used on ower side of the water
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I see. I actually had an uncle Bob. That's sort of freaky...
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So, im sure everyone has read minimum cage size for a sav is 6'x4'x4' to 8"x4'x4'. How does everyone feel about the 6 foot cage as an option? I feel bad im going to just have an 8' cage, i could not imagine a 6' for a 3.5' lizard? i think bare Min should be 8'
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I completely agree. In fact, I've been telling people that the minimum enclosure SHOULD be three times the length of the animal in length, and twice the length of the animal in width.
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03-13-12, 04:28 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
not sure, i loved that show as a kid, i should remember if their was. I dont think so but i know **** van dike says it a few times in that show.
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03-13-12, 04:35 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
ya 3 would be real nice, lizards move too much to be in such small enclosures.
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03-13-12, 04:37 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
'Bob's your uncle' is still in very common usage in Australia. As Korbin said, it is used in the same way as 'there you go'. Essentially it means 'after that, everything will work out fine'. For example, if you were telling someone how to fix their car, you might say "adjust this bit here, tighten that bit there and then Bob's your uncle".
When I first arrived in Australia the language was absolutely loaded with idioms and colloquialisms, some holdovers from the English (such as 'Bob's your uncle') but most unique to Australia. For me it was almost like learning a new language. Many have been pretty much lost through urbanisation and globalisation, which is a shame as they really added colour to the language.
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03-13-12, 04:49 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
my dad says them all the time, funny thing is he was the only child on his side who was born in canada, and the only one who has never been to england, yet he speak with a slight accent and says these funny term. Spot of tea, neds your nanny, spot on, go to the lue....... i used to tease him about it but all these years later i have turned into my old man lol
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03-13-12, 04:52 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Another question for thread, If your going to house 2 savs in 1 cage, what are some thoughts on cage size for adults?
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03-13-12, 04:57 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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Another question for thread, If your going to house 2 savs in 1 cage, what are some thoughts on cage size for adults?
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And following on to this would 2 together "entertain" each other (like having two dogs instead of one) or is there concern about fighting/domination issues?
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03-13-12, 05:16 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Going with the flow, if it turns out I have a pair, then I will enlarge the enclosure in a year or two, if they are same sex but get along, same thing.
If they fight, a new cage will be built.
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03-13-12, 05:36 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
I was just thinking in terms of size of the cage if people had them together, just looking at your pics wayne gave me the idea to ask, im sure others out thier have sav housed together.
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05-03-12, 08:37 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Can everyone give their input on substrate types/combos used. I know there should be a mix of sand/bark/leaf litter, but is this only for humidity optimization or is there other reasons for not using just bark.
What does everyone think of cutting a hole at the bottom of the tank....placing a screen and then layering it from bottom to top : Large stones, smaller stones, pebbles, dirt, bark. Then you would have a perfect drainage system and could simulate a rain cycle and not have to clean your cage much if at all. Do you think its practical? Of course you would have to tie your cage into your plumbing. I've always wanted to set up a perfect ecosystem so that it was self sustaining. I hate worrying about mold and disease. Does anyone have any comments on disease/ salmonella etc form their feces? How possible is it etc.
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05-03-12, 08:39 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
60/40 Eco earth and childrens play sand. Holds a burrow well
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05-03-12, 08:59 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
What Brady suggested is exactly what I use, with leaf litter on top. It allows for burrowing and egg laying (if you have a female), cover, humidity, and enrichment.
I haven't had a problem with substrate molding, or becoming too wet.
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05-04-12, 11:58 AM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Is eco earth by zoo med or something? Sand wise should I buy that sand that they sell for bearded dragons?.....then mix the two or keep the layers. I was thinking with a heat mat it might be better to keep layers but for burrowing i should mix. As a side note how wet do you need that sand because it seems like it will not hold a burrow very well.
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