Fish dying - Page 3

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danimal

I kept a Clown Loach in my Slider tank for 10+ years. That tank was a 75Gal. 10 is very small though and less forgiving. Wild guess would be not enough filter.

If that's the case, can I upgrade to a 30 gallon filter, until I can gather the money together for the larger tank, and other necessities?

smy_749 · 04-23-13, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalDbag

If that's the case, can I upgrade to a 30 gallon filter, until I can gather the money together for the larger tank, and other necessities?

You don't have a clown loach, so you won't need as large of a tank. I still think you need more space, 10 gallons is very small.

grab a 29 gallon or something at the 1 $ per gallon sales at petco, and a filter , done.

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

You don't have a clown loach, so you won't need as large of a tank. I still think you need more space, 10 gallons is very small.

grab a 29 gallon or something at the 1 $ per gallon sales at petco, and a filter , done.

I also need a heater. Well I guess the tank will have to sit on the floor, until I can get a stand. Now the question is, what to do with the 10 gallon? Get another snake, or more fish? (thinking neon tetras)

smy_749 · 04-23-13, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalDbag

I also need a heater. Well I guess the tank will have to sit on the floor, until I can get a stand. Now the question is, what to do with the 10 gallon? Get another snake, or more fish? (thinking neon tetras)

Make a planted vivarium out of it with live plants, a little stream, and moss ;P

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Make a planted vivarium out of it with live plants, a little stream, and moss ;P

The stream might be the hard part.......Along with everything else

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 05:55 PM

Can tetras be mixed to make one big school, or do they like to be with their own kind?

smy_749 · 04-23-13, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalDbag

The stream might be the hard part.......Along with everything else

Its not so bad, it doesn't have to be a real stream. Just a little pond in the middle, and you could prob use the little filter you have on there now.

Just google how to make a paludarium, its not so bad and looks very cool. When you get good at it, make a bigger one and add animals.

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Its not so bad, it doesn't have to be a real stream. Just a little pond in the middle, and you could prob use the little filter you have on there now.

Just google how to make a paludarium, its not so bad and looks very cool. When you get good at it, make a bigger one and add animals.

Plant upkeep seems like the hard part.

smy_749 · 04-23-13, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalDbag

Plant upkeep seems like the hard part.

Just give it a try, plants are pretty cheap and it will look nice in your room or something. You could always make a planted 10 gallon with neon tetras or something. And I don't think they mix schools. I haven't seen it atleast.

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Just give it a try, plants are pretty cheap and it will look nice in your room or something. You could always make a planted 10 gallon with neon tetras or something. And I don't think they mix schools. I haven't seen it atleast.

I tried plants in the aquarium once, they died pretty quickly.

erichillkeast · 04-23-13, 06:09 PM

Or you could keep the ten gallon running, get a test kit and figure out where you are going wrong, fix it and when the loach outgrowns the tank either upgrade then or take the loach to your LFS.

If I had to take a guess (without knowing your water parameters) the reasonthe second fish died is because of an ammonia spike. Which was caused by the other decaying fish.

IMO if all you do is upgrade to a larger tank without knowing what is going wrong you will just experience the same problem it will just take a bit longer for the problem to show.

Pirarucu · 04-23-13, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pareeeee

Definitely NOT a kuhli loach:

From the second picture it still looks like a Weather/Dojo Loach to me. They can come in varying shades of brown/grey/even pinkish.

I suggest asking your local pet store if they will take it back

There is a black form of the Kuhli Loach... That is what he has, it's not a Dojo Loach.
My guess is that there's some sort of parasite or fungus in the tank. We've got some sort of fungus going through our brains right now that just will not go away. Luckily it seems to be a very specialized variety, as it hasn't touched anything else in the tank.

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by erichillkeast

Or you could keep the ten gallon running, get a test kit and figure out where you are going wrong, fix it and when the loach outgrowns the tank either upgrade then or take the loach to your LFS.

If I had to take a guess (without knowing your water parameters) the reasonthe second fish died is because of an ammonia spike. Which was caused by the other decaying fish.

IMO if all you do is upgrade to a larger tank without knowing what is going wrong you will just experience the same problem it will just take a bit longer for the problem to show.

Wouldn't testing it not be accurate, because I put a neutral regulator in it, and changed the filter cartridge?

I think I prefer the "loach is killing them" answer opposed to the "parasite" answer. Parasite answer sounds a lot harder to fix. But how do I figure out if it's that or not? Water test kit?

smy_749 · 04-23-13, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalDbag

Wouldn't testing it not be accurate, because I put a neutral regulator in it, and changed the filter cartridge?

I think I prefer the "loach is killing them" answer opposed to the "parasite" answer. Parasite answer sounds a lot harder to fix. But how do I figure out if it's that or not? Water test kit?

Hahahaa it doesn't matter what you prefer, It won't change the reality. I agree with the poster about the water testing kit, but even if you find out theres something with the water I still advise upgrading.

Also, if he did upgrade to a tank, the amount of waste from his fish would be significantly less in comparison to the new size of the tank - lower levels.

Unless you buy a bunch more fish... then you may be back to square one.

TotalDbag · 04-23-13, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smy_749

Hahahaa it doesn't matter what you prefer, It won't change the reality. I agree with the poster about the water testing kit, but even if you find out theres something with the water I still advise upgrading.

Also, if he did upgrade to a tank, the amount of waste from his fish would be significantly less in comparison to the new size of the tank - lower levels.

Unless you buy a bunch more fish... then you may be back to square one.

I know prefering doesn't do anything, but it makes me feel better for the time being, until I can test it.

I'll probably bring the fish back to schooling numbers. So around 3 more tetras, and 2, or more loaches (depending on size), so he can be comfortable, as others has said. But I don't know what size I'm getting yet, so those numbers will vary.