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Old 11-28-12, 04:07 PM   #346
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Oh i see....youll talk savanah monitors but not garter morphs
care and husbandry Joe. Ever see me ask if they are Anery??

OK, so I'll play.. Obviously you have something to say.....

An=lacking, erythristic=Red pigments

so yes....

Now, I await your rebuttle statements.
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Old 11-28-12, 04:10 PM   #347
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Garter snakes are not red and are not anerythristic. Lets get real.


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Old 11-28-12, 05:12 PM   #348
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Didnt you say you made a snow from scratch....

No I didn't ever claim I produced that snow.

Scott gave it to me as a non feeder years ago, as for lineage, I'm repeating what Scott told me when I got the snake.

And Flames are found wild in Canada all the time.????
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Old 11-28-12, 05:59 PM   #349
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If you could, I would not recommend the commonly available snow radix to anyone, that line has been inbred so much that nearly all of them have eye or tail issues or both.

The one I cooked from scratch is my prize girl, her parents were an Albino and het Anerythristic, she should have perfect eyes and tail.
Here you say you made a snow from scratch
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Old 11-28-12, 06:03 PM   #350
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Here you say you made a snow from scratch

Yes - a Thamnopis Radix

Then you show me my Thamnophis sirtalis and it's suddenly the same snake??
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Old 11-28-12, 06:56 PM   #351
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When i see an anery garter it doesnt click.?

So how do you explain red stripe ribbon snakes, red radix, flames, Infernalis, Tetrataenia, Concinus & Parietalis (Red sided garter snake), all of these species are found in nature with much red pigment, so just how does lacking red not click??
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Old 11-28-12, 08:44 PM   #352
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If there was an anery rubrilieatus.infernalis.tetrataenia.concinnus and parietalis then it would be white where the red would be. Red radix and flames are red morphs so a non red morph would be a normal.
Black garter snakes are considered anery....that doesnt click
Albino plains garters dont have red on them...neither t- or t+. You dont use an anery to make a snow with an albino thats white and yellow. So if the cplains anery isnt anery then neither is the anery red side cuz theyre the same thing.
I never considered an all black garter snake anery, I always called them melanistic.

NOW your explanation makes sense...
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Re: Wayne's Garter Snake Photo thread

where I do get confused is in "albino" radix, the normally orange stripe is yellow?

That should indicate lacking the red necessary to create the orange.
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Anerythristic "red sided" (Thamnophis Sirtalis Parietalis) . Even though the species is called red sided, Anery specimens have no red pigment. This yearling is sizing up nicely.

This guy looks black
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Yup... with white where the red should be...
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this snake is black....

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Theres no yellow either why isnt it called axanthic?
I thought the blue ones were called Axanthic? (green-yellow=blue)

I will admit, having grown up my whole life with garter snakes at my feet, I have been more interested in behaviour than morphs.
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