The one and ONLY python BAN thread (HR511) - Page 22

Valvaren · 03-06-12, 12:59 PM

I just wanna say one thing about everyone freaking out.

There are lots of threads on here lately that are the same thing getting reposted and yeah I found them really annoying but then I did something, I stopped reading them. I understand you guys don't like seeing them all the time on your new posts but this isn't some silly little picture thread with someones snake looking left and then looking right. Its an issue and I know i've learned a lot from all of the threads being made and I also know that personally when I see something that is 21 pages long i'm not going to read it, mainly because it is usually filled with a lot of random gossip and not the issue. I like the newer threads because they are to the point, easier to read and are more focused and I know newer people would be more inclined to read them.

Honestly I find the whining about the threads more annoying then the threads themselves then I just stopped reading the whining.

Sorry if I offend but everyone else has said their piece so I wanted to say mine.

I say the newer threads help reach more people with more information and I find them more helpful then a 21 page jumbled chit chat.

Lankyrob · 03-06-12, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenn_06

Sad thing is EVERYONE does not know about the ban EVERYONE does not know what to do, i run into so many people on forums that just got into snakes and knows nothing so its good to have the ban thread bumped up so they can read and find out how to help.

But just by bumping the one thread thsi will do exactly the same job without overloading the forum with lots of individual threads.

Skumbo · 03-06-12, 04:06 PM

How about we talk about the ban or how to fight it rather than how many threads their are?

Gatorhunter1231 · 03-06-12, 04:23 PM

You needed another ban thread because I looked down the first page and seen nothing about HR511 which is brand new compared to the lacey act burm ban.

exwizard · 03-06-12, 04:32 PM

I realize this site is worldwide and HR 511 only affects the U.S. However this does not take away from the fact that this bill was written by people who are ignorant of the nature of these snakes. This fact alone is why this bill needs to get defeated.

**millertime89** · 03-06-12, 11:01 PM

Can we at least get this thread stickied?
Noob, you should've looked a little harder.
The rest of you, if you don't like the ban threads, don't read 'em and quit complaining and when your snakes are illegal don't come complaining to the rest of us.

**millertime89** · 03-06-12, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenn_06

Sad thing is EVERYONE does not know about the ban EVERYONE does not know what to do, i run into so many people on forums that just got into snakes and knows nothing

unfortunately.

infernalis · 03-06-12, 11:57 PM

stickied...

always on top.

**millertime89** · 03-07-12, 12:34 AM

thank you Wayne, it was needed.

takagari · 03-08-12, 06:55 AM

How about the op or admin edits the title and original post.

This is NOT LONGER a Python Ban.

So the "The one and ONLY python BAN thread" Is void. As it now includes all Boa's.

For a forum so heavily into the snake community I can not believe they do not have an announcement stickied across all forum sections. Even if comments are blocked, But something to let everyone know.

Not everyone is going to read 22 pages. So maybe updated the original thread/title?

Also. For all you shmucks talking about dead hands etc. This ban stops the import and cross state travel. If you move or travel to another state with your snake. You break Federal Law.
USFW has already stated, THERE WILL BE NO PERMIT AVAILABLE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR REASONS

**millertime89** · 03-08-12, 02:24 PM

The admin of the forum is in favor of the ban to a certain respect. It JUST got sticked if that tells you anything.

Skumbo · 03-08-12, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millertime89

The admin of the forum is in favor of the ban to a certain respect. It JUST got sticked if that tells you anything.

.....what?

**millertime89** · 03-09-12, 12:56 AM

its posted somewhere in this thread IIRC. Wayne has graciously agreed to stay out of this thread because he disagrees with the majority sentiment in this thread.

Dehlida · 05-21-12, 02:24 PM

The ban will not lift, but this is going to create a tremendous "niche" market for those who have burms, and breed large constrictors. Very few people breed them as it is, now lets see, guy in Denver (my state) wants a burm- he can't buy from any other state, only breeders in his state.

Smart breeder knows very few people have the snake or babies for sale, triples/quadruples his price and still gets sales- because there is no where else to legally go for the animals. If you have the room and the time, get into the big constrictors now, it'll pay off big time in a few years.

I wouldn't be shocked if somehow Boas made it to the ban list in the next 1-2 years, and those are a huge staple in the pet trade and do well in a collector/breeder market and are a big easier to house maintain. With chain stores unable to carry them and the demand still there, breeders will make a killing.

Watch for breeders dumping stock as ban waves come in, and don't follow suit. Buy them!

Now I don't do too much reading, but are boas already on the ban list? If so when did the ban officially take effect as I still notice people selling them, hopefully I didn't miss my market chance.

StudentoReptile · 05-21-12, 02:41 PM

March 23rd.