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02-23-13, 06:20 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires
it wasn't just one.. they had like 5 of them (all sizes) in one tiny little 10 gal.. my lizard is around a foot in length.. .he just simply didnt fit.. so i took him... and i would do it all over again.. i have no control over weather the others live or die or who they sell them too.. (they dont keep monitors long) they are always sold, but i can control the outcome of at least one so IMO what i did wasn't a horrible thing to do.. i gave a sav the life it prob wouldn't have if i hadn't came along.
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You missed my point so I'll end this here.
*pats your head*
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02-23-13, 08:15 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Remember Slayer's post Deadly?? Aaron is alluding to the same point.
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02-23-13, 08:22 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
i already knew what he was saying.. but i was a little offended because he told me not to do it next time, made he seem like he didnt approve of what i did.. well i just simply said that i helped save a monitor so if that is the way i choose to look at it then yay me!
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02-23-13, 09:28 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Imo if you see an animal you want then get it if you have the space. If this one were to die nothing would have stopped them from getting another.
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02-23-13, 09:29 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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The point is if NOBODY gives the BAD pet stores money then they can't replace it and will go out of business. Simple economics.
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True.......
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02-23-13, 10:05 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDesires
no hes not.. hes saying i killed a bunch of other animals simply by saving one.. if that were the case then you can't purchase reptiles anywhere.. there is no reason to let one animal die simply because once it does it will be replaced anyway so IN MY OPINION <<<<<< i dont give a crap what he thinks about what i did.. as far as im concerned he would have died in there and been replaced with another to die. so i just saved one i dont care what kind of stupid negative spin you want to put on the situation..
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My local pet store had three savs die in store. Guess what they no longer carry?
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Originally Posted by Corey209
Aaron is a veteran member so his opinion does mean something but it doesn't mean it's right. Whether someone agrees with him or not is up to them but opinions are free to share. By buying a sav from a pet store you did open up more room for another one which will most likely die. Yes he would have died but instead of supporting an already damaged Sav you could have just bought a baby from a reputable breeder that only sells to homes that they will last in. Reptiles aren't dogs or cats, we don't need to take in every animal that's special needs or will end up dying.
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First off there are no reputable sav breeders.
Secondly wtf does that last line mean?
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02-23-13, 10:37 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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My local pet store had three savs die in store. Guess what they no longer carry?
First off there are no reputable sav breeders.
Secondly wtf does that last line mean?
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I'm sure there's someone who breeds and makes sure they go to a good home..
I was meaning dogs and cats go into shelters and it's preferred to adopt rather then buy from a breeder who doesn't care where the animals go.
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02-23-13, 10:55 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
It's an interesting position to take so indignantly, Aaron; given that you breed one of the few reptiles killed more often than Boscs. Do you know how many of the BPs youve bred are alive still now? What percentage have died from poor care? How responsible are you for their deaths?
Just thought I'd throw a similar wrench in the works for you.
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02-24-13, 01:22 AM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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I'm sure there's someone who breeds and makes sure they go to a good home..
I was meaning dogs and cats go into shelters and it's preferred to adopt rather then buy from a breeder who doesn't care where the animals go.
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Yeah. There are really no sav breeders.
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02-24-13, 10:07 AM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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Originally Posted by jarich
It's an interesting position to take so indignantly, Aaron; given that you breed one of the few reptiles killed more often than Boscs. Do you know how many of the BPs youve bred are alive still now? What percentage have died from poor care? How responsible are you for their deaths?
Just thought I'd throw a similar wrench in the works for you.
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Lots. I talk to most of my customers on a regular basis. They keep me up to date.
I know of only one that has died. Each one of my customers knows how to contact me if they have any trouble.
I am not responsible for any deaths based on the fact that I sell directly to consumers who know what they are doing. I am a breeder. I don't sell pet store stuff usually so most people take care of their animals. Like I said though, if they don't reach out to me then I can't help them and I am NOT responsible for any death.
You can try to twist it around on me because I keep and breed ball pythons but honestly, it has nothing to do with import savannahs and pet stores. I am talking about giving bad pet stores money. I am not a bad pet store who's somehow going to kill each animal I breed or buy.
Try harder next time.
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02-25-13, 04:29 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
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02-25-13, 04:34 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
The hunt for dirt is next!
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02-25-13, 04:39 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
Looking good man!
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03-20-13, 02:37 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
What is the best reptile friendly sealant to use on the wood for my Monitor enclosure? Wanna make sure not to use anything harmful. Thank you
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03-20-13, 03:29 PM
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Re: Monitor enclosure discussion thread
I used Dutch boy floor sealer. seems to be holding up.
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