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04-14-13, 12:54 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
Seriously?? People took the time to answer your question in depth and correctly and you think "no" would have been better?
Maybe "thanks glad I didn't waste my time/effort on this " would have sufficed.
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This is a forum, I know you didn't expect a long list of just "yes" or "no" answers. You can't even type just yes or no, its too short. And what good is a yes or a no without reasoning behind it?
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04-14-13, 02:19 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
ok...maybe i'm just dumb..but a "genetically modified organism"...like a chicken bred to to have more breast meat? or actually inserting DNA into the organism to alter it? and if it's the latter, where are the toxins? i get actually applying a toxin (pesticide) to the organism (corn), but genetically making the corn produce more corn? i'm not seeing the down side...educate me
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04-14-13, 02:31 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by MDT
ok...maybe i'm just dumb..but a "genetically modified organism"...like a chicken bred to to have more breast meat? or actually inserting DNA into the organism to alter it? and if it's the latter, where are the toxins? i get actually applying a toxin (pesticide) to the organism (corn), but genetically making the corn produce more corn? i'm not seeing the down side...educate me
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I think what the original poster was referring too is foreign substances like fertilizers, and stuff that shouldn't be inside of animals (foreign substances).
However, technically, selective breeding also modifies the gene pool, and it can be done without the use of inserting DNA or anything. Just takes a long time.
breeding corn over thousands of generations through selective breeding of the specimens which show the desirable trait, I also don't see any harm in that either...
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04-14-13, 03:17 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
I actually expected much harsher criticism of the OP! I feel a little let down.
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04-14-13, 03:51 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by drewkore
I actually expected much harsher criticism of the OP! I feel a little let down.
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I had to take a couple breaths before posting.
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04-14-13, 06:16 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by cagedbirdsingin
A simple "no" would have sufficed.
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Okay then.... no.
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04-14-13, 06:23 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
You gotta know people will go into full detail about what they think. Most of the time it an be very help full and give you plenty of knowledge. If you want organic feeder mice buy some mice from the pet store feed organic only based door breed the mice do the same for their babies when try grow up they will be organically raised so then feed the snake how you see fit weather it be frozen mice or live feed depending on what your snake responds to or what you feel comfortable with.
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04-15-13, 08:46 AM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
Sorry, next time (lol, like there will be a next time...) I'll simply type yes, or no. And if I offended you, I apologize. Glad I didn't post what I really thought:
"What a stoopid idea".
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04-15-13, 10:27 AM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by cagedbirdsingin
I tried to make this post earlier, but I guess it didn't work.
I'm getting my first snake in about three months and I'm getting all of my supplies together!
You are what you eat, right?
I keep pet rats and actually run my own business making and selling premium organic diets for pet rodents. I like being able to control what goes into my animals and removing the things that shouldn't be there like unnatural ingredients, additives, and the dreaded GMO.
I don't want these things going into my future snake, either. I was wondering if anyone sells feeders raised "organically". It makes sense to me, though I can see how it wouldn't to many others.
Of course, this is something that I could do myself with my own organic diet, but I was just wondering if there is anyone out there that uses these practices to make sure that their snakes get the best food possible. I don't want GMO in any of my pets.
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TO answer your question nicely, the answer is most likely no, unless you make foods yourself or can verify though places that are GMO free since roughly 80% of processed food is GMO because America is ridiculously fond of throwing ethics and public safety out of the window when it affects the bottom line.
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04-15-13, 11:21 AM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
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Originally Posted by MDT
ok...maybe i'm just dumb..but a "genetically modified organism"...like a chicken bred to to have more breast meat? or actually inserting DNA into the organism to alter it? and if it's the latter, where are the toxins? i get actually applying a toxin (pesticide) to the organism (corn), but genetically making the corn produce more corn? i'm not seeing the down side...educate me
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There are a number of controversial studies going on in regards to the use of GMOs specifically the bt-corn. I'm not sure how I personally feel about the use of GMOs for our food consumption at this point. If the GMOs just increased crop size I don't see a problem but with the BT inclusion for pesticide that I find scarey. Until there are further scientific studies done I don't think we will truely know. The impact on rodent feed is the possible sterilization of the rodents. Also how will this in the long term feeding rodents to herps effect them. Is there a risk of sterilization to them also. What I do find concerning is the number of countries currently banning or restricting the use of GMOs after having done their own studies/research. It's difficult to find non-biased articles. Here is one biased article that explains some of the controversy regarding the pesticide use.
Genetically Engineered Corn May Cause Allergies, Infertility, and Disease : Nutrition News and Notes
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04-15-13, 12:30 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
It's the bigger picture, not just GMO food, it's like, the chem trails, and the..the FEMA camps, and like, the fluoridation of our water maaan... Expand your mind braaah OCCUPY MONSTANTO
Bahahhaa....
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04-15-13, 01:40 PM
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Re: Organic feeder mice?
i always feed my breeding rats gerbil food... they seem to love it, dunno if thats ok or not.
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