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Old 03-29-13, 09:56 AM   #16
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I use plain old dirt. It works fantastic.
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Old 03-29-13, 09:56 AM   #17
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I was talking about the kraft paper that bcr229 posted links to. Just put the roll on a spool, start it into the paper shredder, and let the shredder do its thing until I had enough, haha.
If you're going to do that, visit some small businesses in your area to see if they receive shipments. We run a small biz out of the house and we send an insane amount of cardboard and packing paper material to the recycle center every week. They might just give you the used brown packing paper at no charge.

Of course, now you have me thinking... we also have a shredder...
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Old 03-29-13, 02:20 PM   #18
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How do we feel about Kraft paper vs Newsprint paper?

Kraft Paper Rolls in Stock - ULINE
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Newsprint Rolls in Stock - ULINE

The Newsprint paper is cheaper, but it won't look as "natural" as the Kraft, since it's white. What are your thoughts on which may be the better substrate? =]
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Old 03-29-13, 02:32 PM   #19
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I agree 100% that what is used in the ink may cause harm. Maybe not, but is it worth the risk? Not to me, a compressed bale of Aspen costs be $8 at Tractor Supply, I can 5 to 6 - 4 ft cages that are 24" deep, and I lay it in there a couple inches thick. With larger snakes it can get compacted down. Whenever I take them out I always fluff it up before they go back in. They love to bury themselves in it. Plus I like the way it looks, much nicer than paper or cardboard of any kind. So that is $1.33 per cage, and I do a total cleaning once a month and it all gets replaced. Of course I spot clean as needed. I take the old shavings and use them in my compost pile. My snakes are worth $1.33 a month to me. YMMV?
good point! Hmm i wonder if i can find aspen for that cheap. I usually just buy the big bags from the local herp shop but thats like 10 bucks for a bag that wont come close to filling even half of one of the cages. Ill check some local tractor supply places around. Thanks!
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Old 03-29-13, 05:18 PM   #20
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Actually, for those wanting paper, papermart.com is even better. Just got a 15"x1695' roll of Kraft paper for $35 shipped.
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Old 03-30-13, 08:22 AM   #21
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No problem glad I could help.
Between kraft and newspaper the choice would be kraft. Since there is no ink involved you remove that risk, although certain dye's can be bad for snakes as well. But kraft paper has been used for years with no issues that I know of.
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Actually, for those wanting paper, papermart.com is even better. Just got a 15"x1695' roll of Kraft paper for $35 shipped.
ohhhhhh! nice!! Thanks!!
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Old 03-30-13, 08:55 AM   #23
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How do we feel about Kraft paper vs Newsprint paper?

Kraft Paper Rolls in Stock - ULINE
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Newsprint Rolls in Stock - ULINE

The Newsprint paper is cheaper, but it won't look as "natural" as the Kraft, since it's white. What are your thoughts on which may be the better substrate? =]
I use Uline's Kraft indented paper. The rolls are as wide as the enclosure and have the ability to soak up much of the liquid waste thereby easing cleanup. also, I think the animals like moving on the textured surface vs the smooth newspaper or butcher paper surface although not one of my snakes has verbally confirmed that observation
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Old 03-31-13, 01:25 AM   #24
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Yep. Papermart.com now has my business forever. I ordered it Friday at 3:30pm online.

It came to my door today (Saturday) at 10am. Now THAT'S service! =D
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Old 04-06-13, 04:15 PM   #25
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I have seen large vivs lined with cushion flooring,or lino and across the water linoliam I think thats how its spelt lol.
When you see it fitted in a viv it does dress it up a bit as well and if you have a second piece ready to change over it could make things better.
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