Good display animal for a 20L - Page 2

medicinhed · 03-11-13, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

I thought they're toads not frogs?

Well, technically they are frogs. The popular "pet trade" name is a misnomer. Like Colombian Red-tail boas being used on price tags, rather than calling them, "common boa constrictors".

"Although it is typically referred to as a toad, the Fire-Bellied Toad is not a member of the toad family (Bufonidae.) As such, it may properly be referred to as a frog."

Oriental fire-bellied toad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corey209 · 03-11-13, 03:00 AM

Good to know, the local pet store labels their common boas as red tails and fire bellies as toads haha

I'll have to research both dart frogs and fire bellies to see which I'll prefer.

medicinhed · 03-11-13, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

Good to know, the local pet store labels their common boas as red tails and fire bellies as toads haha

I'll have to research both dart frogs and fire bellies to see which I'll prefer.

Darts are prettier. All the small rainforest ones are brilliant.

I got my colony of fire bellies because:

1. I'm new to frog keeping. So I wanted something easier.
2. Hardiness.
3. Cheap. Mine were $6.99 each.
4. Nicely colored for the price and ease of care.
5. Good introduction to amphib husbandry.
6. Wanted a reason to make a paludarium.
7. Was going to full empty 20L with yet another snake, must...stop...buying...snakes.

Corey209 · 03-11-13, 04:05 AM

Well I have the money to spend to make everything perfect for darts so I'll probably just stick with them. I think I'm going to get the plants growing for a month and establish my own culture of spring tails and isopods before buying any frogs though.

medicinhed · 03-11-13, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

Well I have the money to spend to make everything perfect for darts so I'll probably just stick with them. I think I'm going to get the plants growing for a month and establish my own culture of spring tails and isopods before buying any frogs though.

Cheers.
Great choice.

ilovemypets1988 · 03-11-13, 07:19 AM

id go for a nice tarantula personally lol or a nice scorpion

Chu'Wuti · 03-11-13, 08:44 AM

I also have FBTs (Bombina orientalis--in keeping with a new forum member's request that we include scientific names to help him find posts because he doesn't know all the acronyms, abbreviations, and common names in English!) in a 20L paludarium. DH & I inherited them from his research partner . . . long story short, they are cute, easy to care for, interesting to watch, and make interesting sounds, so we are enjoying them!

poison123 · 03-11-13, 09:10 AM

FBT's are great pets as well. And great for a first time frog owner. However if darts is what you want then go for it best to get something you like.

DragonsEye · 03-11-13, 01:14 PM

PDFs will also eat small roaches, isopods, or -- simply put -- any small arthropod.

Corey, in reality there are no such thing as toads -- they're all frogs.

Squirtle · 03-11-13, 02:04 PM

You can also look into Red-Eyed Crocodile Skinks, they're like miniature crocodiles and alligators, maybe even dinosaurs. I don't know how many you'd be able to fit inside a 20L, but they sure are cool!

poison123 · 03-11-13, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtle

You can also look into Red-Eyed Crocodile Skinks, they're like miniature crocodiles and alligators, maybe even dinosaurs. I don't know how many you'd be able to fit inside a 20L, but they sure are cool!

I heard these guys are always hiding. And a 20 gallon per skink.

Squirtle · 03-11-13, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by poison123

I heard these guys are always hiding. And a 20 gallon per skink.

What you hear isn't always true, right? I just read a couple of care sheets, some say that 10 gallons is adequate for a pair, while others say 20 gallons per pair, So I'd assume you can fit at least 2-3 geckos in a 20 gallon long.

poison123 · 03-11-13, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtle

What you hear isn't always true, right? I just read a couple of care sheets, some say that 10 gallons is adequate for a pair, while others say 20 gallons per pair, So I'd assume you can fit at least 2-3 geckos in a 20 gallon long.

Depends on who your getting the info from. I talk to people with personal experience. Care sheets is the last place i look. And what do you mean 2-3 geckos can fit in there? We're talking about skinks not geckos lol.

Squirtle · 03-11-13, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by poison123

Depends on who your getting the info from. I talk to people with personal experience. Care sheets is the last place i look. And what do you mean 2-3 geckos can fit in there? We're talking about skinks not geckos lol.

My bad, they resemble geckos so I get them confused sometimes. There are plenty of people on YouTube with one or a pair of skinks inside a 10-20 gallon fish tank, they're also "not always hiding".

poison123 · 03-11-13, 03:26 PM

Youtube is also one of the last places i would look for info. Did the enclosures you see have enough substrate and hiding spots for them to hide? Or were they all water? (I've seen people put them in all water enclosures and say they are active)