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12-18-12, 02:36 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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I understand what you're saying but even in a 40 gallon your hot end would be pretty hot with a light creating a 105°f basking spot. Then take into consideration that corns are considered room temperature snakes.
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my corn is in a 55 gallon (4'x18"x18" i think). and a high basking spot can easily be achieved with a low wattage bulb by raising the basking spot closer to the bulb or putting the bulb closer to the basking spot. i prefer to raise the basking spot since it is for a snake.
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12-18-12, 02:52 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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I understand what you're saying but even in a 40 gallon your hot end would be pretty hot with a light creating a 105°f basking spot. Then take into consideration that corns are considered room temperature snakes.
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Not necessarily. Depends how it's set up. A more focused beam with a narrow lamp and a raised basking spot could easily achieve that without the hot side being blazing.
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12-18-12, 02:56 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Originally Posted by poison123
my corn is in a 55 gallon (4'x18"x18" i think). and a high basking spot can easily be achieved with a low wattage bulb by raising the basking spot closer to the bulb or putting the bulb closer to the basking spot. i prefer to raise the basking spot since it is for a snake.
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Sorry as I assumed you used a basic set up in a forty gallon. I never thought you would have basking platforms.
What are your temps under the basking spot?
@ maggot
The problem with a tight beam is it would require an additional heat source to get the proper ambient temp.
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12-18-12, 03:06 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Sorry as I assumed you used a basic set up in a forty gallon. I never thought you would have basking platforms.
What are your temps under the basking spot?
@ maggot
The problem with a tight beam is it would require an additional heat source to get the proper ambient temp.
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Not really. You said so yourself that they're "room temperature snakes." The warm side would still be warmer than the cool side, just not blazing.
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12-18-12, 03:21 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895
Sorry as I assumed you used a basic set up in a forty gallon. I never thought you would have basking platforms.
What are your temps under the basking spot?
@ maggot
The problem with a tight beam is it would require an additional heat source to get the proper ambient temp.
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im not using a basking platform im using several inches of burrowable substrate. though i will be making some retes stacks soon i heard corns love them
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12-18-12, 03:32 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Not really. You said so yourself that they're "room temperature snakes." The warm side would still be warmer than the cool side, just not blazing.
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My comment was general and not specific to corns. Actually our exchange has been about setting up high temp basking spots not about corns.
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12-18-12, 03:36 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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My comment was general and not specific to corns. Actually our exchange has been about setting up high temp basking spots not about corns.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KORBIN5895
I understand what you're saying but even in a 40 gallon your hot end would be pretty hot with a light creating a 105°f basking spot. Then take into consideration that corns are considered room temperature snakes.
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When did it stop being about corns?
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12-18-12, 03:42 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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When did it stop being about corns?
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Lol. Nice. I stand corrected.
I will stand on the fact that when I said you would need additional heat sources with a tight beam I wasn't thinking corns. I think mostly in boas.
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12-18-12, 03:57 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Lol. Nice. I stand corrected.
I will stand on the fact that when I said you would need additional heat sources with a tight beam I wasn't thinking corns. I think mostly in boas.
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I dunno about boa temp requirements, but a wider beam would probably allow for that. I haven't had a corn in a long time, so I don't remember how we had it set up. But still, a tight beam and an elevated basking spot would likely allow for a very warm basking spot without making the enclosure desert-like.
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12-18-12, 04:38 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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. Then take into consideration that corns are considered room temperature snakes.
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Does that mean corns don't need a heat mat at night? I have a basking light during the day and at night, turn it off but put on the heat mat instead -- that is what the pet store recommended.
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12-18-12, 04:46 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Does that mean corns don't need a heat mat at night? I have a basking light during the day and at night, turn it off but put on the heat mat instead -- that is what the pet store recommended.
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Never, ever, ever listen to people at a pet store. Do your own research. I'm not saying whether corns do or not, but just don't listen to the pet store people. Have you done any research on corns?
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12-18-12, 05:09 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
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Does that mean corns don't need a heat mat at night? I have a basking light during the day and at night, turn it off but put on the heat mat instead -- that is what the pet store recommended.
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I have two corns that have no heat source. That's how I chose to do it.
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12-18-12, 05:11 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
^ ditto.. I don't have any heat on my corns viv..
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12-18-12, 06:32 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
Whereas i keep mine with a constant 86f hot end temp 24/7
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12-20-12, 06:30 PM
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Re: Things I've read and things I've heard...what to believe??
Well, there seems to be varying opinions here so I'll keep it status quo during the winter at least since Charlie is healthy and thriving
After finding Charlie in our back yard, the pet store was helpful in setting me up quickly. I had no reason to question the heat set-up until I read this thread.
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