Can anyone help identify this snake? - Page 2

poison123 · 12-13-12, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I'd never heard of it, but I'm not a huge snake person. Kinda cool though.

~Maggot

corn snakes are rat snakes.

StudentoReptile · 12-13-12, 05:09 PM

My first grey rat snake actually looked like that.

LunasKiss · 12-13-12, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by poison123

corn snakes are rat snakes.

They are? I thought there was a difference. Care to educate me as to why people call them different things if they're the same or...?
I just heard that corns could be crossed with rat snakes so why not just say breed two corns? or two rats?

poison123 · 12-13-12, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LunasKiss

They are? I thought there was a difference. Care to educate me as to why people call them different things if they're the same or...?
I just heard that corns could be crossed with rat snakes so why not just say breed two corns? or two rats?

corn snakes are just a subspecies another name for them is "red rat snake".

LunasKiss · 12-13-12, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by poison123

corn snakes are just a subspecies another name for them is "red rat snake".

Good to know! =)

StudentoReptile · 12-14-12, 06:40 AM

All of them are in the genus Pantherophis (formerly Elaphe). The large "American" ratsnakes are under P. obsoletus and includes the black, grey, yellow, Texas, and Everglades ratsnakes (all different sub species). Corn snakes (sometimes called red rat snakes) are under the species P. guttatus, which also includes the Slowinski (or Kistatchie) corn, and the Great Plains (or Emory's) rat snake (also all sub species).

All of the above are rat snakes.

LunasKiss · 12-14-12, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

All of them are in the genus Pantherophis (formerly Elaphe). The large "American" ratsnakes are under P. obsoletus and includes the black, grey, yellow, Texas, and Everglades ratsnakes (all different sub species). Corn snakes (sometimes called red rat snakes) are under the species P. guttatus, which also includes the Slowinski (or Kistatchie) corn, and the Great Plains (or Emory's) rat snake (also all sub species).

All of the above are rat snakes.

Thank you, that clears everything up for me. I need to do more research on snakes!

Snakeman8 · 12-15-12, 07:41 AM

yellow rat and corn snake cross, i just went to search possible corn snake hybrids, this looks just like the yellow rat cross.

Calsod · 12-15-12, 03:04 PM

Difficult to tell from that pic. However, it looks to be either a motley anery corn snake, a motley caramel corn snake or a "greenish" rat snake. A greenish rat snake is a natural intergrade between a yellow and black rat snake. The greenish forms can be found along the coastal areas of the Carolina's. I've been breeding all these forms for decades and could tell you for sure with a better pic.

Calsod · 12-15-12, 03:12 PM

BTW...I also breed "beast corns." These are corn snake X black rat snake hybrids. So, I'm very familiar with the look of corn/rat hybrids and would be able to tell you if it's one of those too....but a clearer pic is needed.