This is sick, this is disgusting, this needs to STOP - Page 2

StudentoReptile · 12-07-12, 06:03 PM

I work at in animal control, and ya know which breed is responsible for the most bites? Chihuahuas.

EmbraceCalamity · 12-07-12, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

I work at in animal control, and ya know which breed is responsible for the most bites? Chihuahuas.

BAH. Evil little suckers. Not all of them, of course, but they really did terrible in the temperament testing. The American Temperament Testing Society had only 68.3% of Chihuahuas pass, while American Pit Bull Terriers passed with 86.8% - which is actually better than all the bigger breeds like Golden Retrievers, Labs, German Shepherds, etc.

~Maggot

BarelyBreathing · 12-07-12, 06:30 PM

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I work at in animal control, and ya know which breed is responsible for the most bites? Chihuahuas.

I did know that, actually. It's also not the breed's fault. People think that because they are small dogs, they should be treated as dolls, not dogs, and don't need training or socialization. Ugh.

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BAH. Evil little suckers. Not all of them, of course, but they really did terrible in the temperament testing. The American Temperament Testing Society had only 68.3% of Chihuahuas pass, while American Pit Bull Terriers passed with 86.8% - which is actually better than all the bigger breeds like Golden Retrievers, Labs, German Shepherds, etc.

~Maggot

Speaking of, I've met only enough friendly Goldens that I can count on one hand. Every other Golden Retriever I've met has been nasty.

EmbraceCalamity · 12-07-12, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I did know that, actually. It's also not the breed's fault. People think that because they are small dogs, they should be treated as dolls, not dogs, and don't need training or socialization. Ugh.

I've seen that with little dogs. People think when they act like asses that it's cute. Though I guess there could be some breed-specific basis for it too. Hard to say.

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Speaking of, I've met only enough friendly Goldens that I can count on one hand. Every other Golden Retriever I've met has been nasty.

I've not met many Goldens. I've met lots of Pits though, including having owned one, and they've all been the sweetest dogs ever.

~Maggot

BarelyBreathing · 12-07-12, 06:47 PM

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Hard to say.I've not met many Goldens. I've met lots of Pits though, including having owned one, and they've all been the sweetest dogs ever.

~Maggot

I've met a lot of pit bulls, pit bull crosses, and crosses that look like pit bulls, and I've yet to meet one that I didn't like. I've never even seen in person a mean pit.

Gungirl · 12-07-12, 06:50 PM

I was bitten by a pit when I was 8 or 9 yrs old. It was my fault and the owners fault 100% . I still love pits though!

EmbraceCalamity · 12-07-12, 06:56 PM

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I've met a lot of pit bulls, pit bull crosses, and crosses that look like pit bulls, and I've yet to meet one that I didn't like. I've never even seen in person a mean pit.

When I was about 9, I volunteered at a shelter, and most of the dogs there were Pits. That's when I fell in love with them. Even the most abused ones were the sweetest things ever.

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I was bitten by a pit when I was 8 or 9 yrs old. It was my fault and the owners fault 100% . I still love pits though!

Kudos. I hate when people say they were bit by a certain kind of dog, and for the rest of their lives they judge every other dog in the world that looks like that one dog. I had a hound mix literally go for my throat, but I don't hold that against any other dogs. My dad's girlfriend doesn't like white Pits because she had a bad experience with one once, and that's just the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

~Maggot

StudentoReptile · 12-07-12, 07:40 PM

Yeah, most of the nastiest, ill-tempered dogs I've dealt with since getting this new job have been those small breeds: chihuahuas, dachsund, rat/fox terrier, and/or mixes of the above. Couple feral stray mutts that I'm not certain what the genetics were, but most of the worst were the little guys. A lot of the big guys I can happily pick up and carry...big babies.

EmbraceCalamity · 12-07-12, 07:51 PM

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Yeah, most of the nastiest, ill-tempered dogs I've dealt with since getting this new job have been those small breeds: chihuahuas, dachsund, rat/fox terrier, and/or mixes of the above. Couple feral stray mutts that I'm not certain what the genetics were, but most of the worst were the little guys. A lot of the big guys I can happily pick up and carry...big babies.

It's interesting that it works that way. It's the same with equines. Ponies tend to be bloody evil, but the big draft horses are usually big, sweet babies.

I personally prefer big breeds, even though all my dogs now are medium-sized. Pits, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, etc. are my favourites.

~Maggot

Akuma223 · 12-07-12, 09:08 PM

I hate bans of any kind.

I've heard of so many cases where peoples animals get taken away and killed for no good reason. I hate the bad reputation people who care for certain species get. I know of more people who properly care for their bears, foxes, bobcats, cougars, and other crazy beasts better then most people care for their damn dogs, and they still get treated unfairly because some people are stupid and ruin it for everyone else. I wish people would just educate themselves, I mean seriously. Unless you have had a good reason to dislike the breed you shouldn't talk. My dad doesn't like them because his friend had his face ripped off (literally) by his neighbors pitt (the dog had known him his whole life) when he was just five and playing in the sand box. Theres a good reason.

EmbraceCalamity · 12-07-12, 09:24 PM

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Unless you have had a good reason to dislike the breed you shouldn't talk. My dad doesn't like them because his friend had his face ripped off (literally) by his neighbors pitt (the dog had known him his whole life) when he was just five and playing in the sand box. Theres a good reason.

But that was one dog. How can a reasonable person hold that against the millions - if not billions - of other pit bulls in the world? And does he know for certain it was even a pit bull?

Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

Very few people can ID a real pit.

~Maggot

Zoo Nanny · 12-08-12, 06:19 AM

Missouri Town on Mission to Kill Pit Bull Pets, Residents Fight Back | fox4kc.com – Kansas City news & weather from WDAF TV – FOX 4
With so much Media attention in the area I would think that it would stop the roundup. Hopefully they continue the coverage and get even more letters and emails sent to the town.
On a more positive note I read this article this morning.
More good news about bad laws against pit bulls | The Best Friends Blog

Chandra2 · 12-08-12, 09:30 AM

Our town has a pitbull ban(it was in place when we moved here). Im not completely disappointed by it since no one in our neighborhood can keep their dogs in their own yards..Ive had them kill my chickens and attack my dogs in my own yard.If these idiots owned pitbulls Id be a mess of nerves.Sorry but an untrained unsocialized pitbull is twice as scary as a untrained unsocialized border collie mix, especially when you have young kids.
On the other side of the fence they did try to ban rottweilers and Ive always owned a rottweiler even my parents owned rotties.SO I do understand how pitty owners feel.
Thankfully it didnt pass.All owners would have been required to muzzle our rotts when out walking as well as have a concrete floor in the dogs pen(assuming they are kept in one).
We do have a neighbor who has unsocialized rottie mixes and these guys are scary viscous .I had to give my son a pepper spray on his paper route because these dogs are on chains and occasionally get off. I dont trust them one bit.
I just dont know what the solution is...Dont let idiots own anything I guess.

BarelyBreathing · 12-08-12, 09:46 AM

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Our town has a pitbull ban(it was in place when we moved here). Im not completely disappointed by it since no one in our neighborhood can keep their dogs in their own yards..Ive had them kill my chickens and attack my dogs in my own yard.If these idiots owned pitbulls Id be a mess of nerves.Sorry but an untrained unsocialized pitbull is twice as scary as a untrained unsocialized border collie mix, especially when you have young kids.
On the other side of the fence they did try to ban rottweilers and Ive always owned a rottweiler even my parents owned rotties.SO I do understand how pitty owners feel.
Thankfully it didnt pass.All owners would have been required to muzzle our rotts when out walking as well as have a concrete floor in the dogs pen(assuming they are kept in one).
We do have a neighbor who has unsocialized rottie mixes and these guys are scary viscous .I had to give my son a pepper spray on his paper route because these dogs are on chains and occasionally get off. I dont trust them one bit.
I just dont know what the solution is...Dont let idiots own anything I guess.

You think a Pit Bull is scarier than an untrained unsocialized Border Collie? You obviously haven't met many. Untrained Borders are super nippy and intense dogs. When a Border Collie doesn't have a job, they will MAKE it their job to make your life a living hell. A Border Collie without work is a very distructive animal. An untrained Pit is a normal dog. In fact, to have an aggressive Pit Bull you have to TRAIN it to be mean.

Any dog, when given the means, would wander. That isn't a pittie trait. Any dog, when unsocialized to chickens, can kill them. I had a chicken killed by a Pomeranian. You don't see me hating on them.

StudentoReptile · 12-08-12, 10:05 AM

As far as "pitbulls" (a somewhat debatable term itself since the actual breed is Staffordshire terriers, and actually look a little different than what most people think pitbulls look like) and the subject of owners letting their dogs roam loose....

I've been on the dispatch board all week, and been in the field 2 weeks prior: it is not exclusive to any particular breed or any size dog. We get calls of dogs of all sizes and breeds: dachsunds, pits, labs, boxers, chihuahuas, etc, and half the time, the complainant doesn't even know what breed it is. People think because they live in a rural area, they are allowed to let their dogs run loose. It simply ain't so.

Unfortunately, as BB alluded to, there really is no solution. As long as there is money to be made breeding and selling dogs, people will continue to do it. The result is a lot of people getting dogs on impulse and getting rid of them for whatever reason. There will always be more unwanted animals and not enough people/resources to care for them.