Carpet python help! - Page 2

Terranaut · 11-04-12, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shaunyboy

imo its worth getting,a couple of cans of provent a mite shipped,i keep a can for emergencys,its that good mate

as far as i know,most other treatments require REPEAT treatments...

with provent a mite you treat once,then relax,as all the mites are taken care of

cheers shaun

Agreed but Nix is 1/4 the cost and in places like where I live it's everywhere. PAM imho is better for enclosures but I bathed my snakes in a Nix solution and all of the mites came off right away. Not 2 or 3 days later when PAM kills them. So Nix is cool to use on the snake directly. Both have their bennefits. If I could get Nix today but PAM later I would treat today with Nix then spray the enclosures after my PAM came. Mites truly bother me. They need to go immediately once spotted. Not treating then to me would be like finding 5 or 6 leaches on a person and thinking " ahh I'll wait until my shipment is here to remove them"

I cured my mites long ago but have everything ready to go if I ever see one of those little buggers again. I have both Nix and PAM on standby

mymichelle12472 · 11-04-12, 06:00 PM

I have 6 carpet pythons and 2 of mine are 7 and a half feet when they are going to shed and there cagei always mist mine Lightly 3 times a day during there shed . I've only had problems with weeping bc they were in a all glass cage or if there cage was not getting enough humidity . Anything below 30% humidity will cause them to weeze as soon as u bump up the humidity it will go away I never let my cages get below 80% during the day at night u can drop it down to 75% I have mine on controllersamd dimmers . Once he has shed mist him lightly every other day also have a humidity and heat Gun to check there levels everyday at least 2 times a day . I have 3 rescues that came from very bad owners that left them in very bad conditions . Carpets can act very nervous especially if u just got them they hiss, weeze , rattle there tails (shake) sit in water for days sometimes obviously if they are sitting in water no need to mist them ..one of my big girls that I rescued who is 7 and half feet was feed 3 jumbo rats a week and he kept her in a plastic tote the size of a cat litter box she was so fat her belly Hung down had no clue what it was like to be in a cage where she could stretch her body and move she filled up the whole entire tote coiled up . Her name is Athena 3 years old and got her to shed in one piece stopped her weezing with misting her kept her off feed for a few weeks bc she was struggling to digest this food in her stomach she was miserable scared she would breath so heavy when u went near her cage that she would lift her body up off the floor of the cage I don't think she ever seen people other than just being fed in her tote . Very sad case of neglect so I think I have slit of knowledge when it comes to Carpets . My vet said everything I did was awesome . If it is respiratory problems chill out with the humidity for sure its common sense u know if u had a cold would u want to be wet ? Nope ..lol also one of my rescues did come with mites no fun either I used olive oil basically bath him in it to suffocate the mites but its a pain in the *** to do but it worked and never infected any of my other 13 snakes luckily lol . Also clean out there cages with vinegar and water solution. In a spray bottle ( without the snake in the cage lol) go back over it with a spray bottle of water also I recommend using white paper towels after to see if he still has mites . I also only use newspaper in my cages not colored glossy paper just black and white paper I believe anything else will dry your snake out and cause weezing and respiratory problems also try adding a plant in the cage as well I keep pathos and palms in there . Sorry if I confused anyone with my earlier post ..I guess I didn't explain it to well lol

Lankyrob · 11-04-12, 06:20 PM

Could you please type your posts with punctuation and paragraphs? It makes it almost impossible to read as a mass of print

Terranaut · 11-04-12, 09:12 PM

Sounds like my big female. Raised in the same 24" cube all her life. Hissed and stuck at the pillow case she was in on the front seat going home. Punched me a few times but now with proper care she climbs onto me to get off grass(she hates to be on dry grass outside) and when I open her viv she uses me as a ladder to climb out. I solved any humidity issues by building a dedicated reptile room and keep the room at 50% I mist my ball python once a week and my day gecko twice daily. Other than that I fill the humidifier as needed which is never in the summer and daily in the dead of winter. No ri's. No shed issues nothing with any of my snakes or lizards. My beardies stay dry because I use heat lamps with open top glass vivs for them. Sorry if you meant something else but you did just tell a guy with potential ri and low temps to go mist his snake 3 times a day. And that was not good nor would it be if he went and did it. I had to say what I said and hope the op did not mist his carpets before checking into ri and raising the heat.

mymichelle12472 · 11-05-12, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Sounds like my big female. Raised in the same 24" cube all her life. Hissed and stuck at the pillow case she was in on the front seat going home. Punched me a few times but now with proper care she climbs onto me to get off grass(she hates to be on dry grass outside) and when I open her viv she uses me as a ladder to climb out. I solved any humidity issues by building a dedicated reptile room and keep the room at 50% I mist my ball python once a week and my day gecko twice daily. Other than that I fill the humidifier as needed which is never in the summer and daily in the dead of winter. No ri's. No shed issues nothing with any of my snakes or lizards. My beardies stay dry because I use heat lamps with open top glass vivs for them. Sorry if you meant something else but you did just tell a guy with potential ri and low temps to go mist his snake 3 times a day. And that was not good nor would it be if he went and did it. I had to say what I said and hope the op did not mist his carpets before checking into ri and raising the heat.

Ok ok... I'm sorry ..wow !! He said when he took him out of the water he had bubbles coming out of his nose . If he is still having bubbles coming out of his nose then obviously he is sick . Obviously your not going to mist him . All of my snakes are in critter condos with heat and humidity controllers in my opinion when snakes are in there shedding life if they don't have enough humidity they will weeze . So if no other symptoms other feeling dry and scaly then I help them out by misting lightly .. also I put my hand in there cage to feel if its not getting enough humidity or heat . Also if my snake was sick like that I would be giving my vet a call ASAP . Everyone is misunderstanding my post lol...

mymichelle12472 · 11-05-12, 12:47 AM

Also I'm using my cell phone not a computer so my text get Really screwed up !! Haha I didn't realize how bad it was til I went back and red my post ..

mymichelle12472 · 11-05-12, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Mist a carpet 3 times a day with ri?? Quick way to kill this snake.
Up the temps and keep the humidity around 50%. Carpets are not ball pythons and do not need much humidity. If the snake has ri then even less humidity is desired. Bubbles you can see is usually bad bad news if it is an ri. If it was just water it will go away right away. I would check for mites and check again for bubbles today. Raise the temps and keep the humidity down. Pull the water dish out for a day. If you still have signs of ri Monday go see a vet. Just do not mist it. Thats just silly.

First of all I never said he is like a ball python ! Second of all if u red my post correctly I never said to mist him if he is sick !! Seriously read my post and tell me. I said mist him While he is sick !!

shaunyboy · 11-05-12, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim9075

Amazing! Nerver heard of it. Going to order some asap. Last time I studied into mites was a couple years ago and heard they were extremely hard to get rid of.

all you do with PROVENT A MITE is.....

1.put snakes and water bowls in a seperate room from the tanks your treating

2.take out and spray all the tank contents

3.spray the tanks

4.open a window in the tank room and leave them for 2 hours,this allows fumes to disapate

5.wash water bowls with hot soapy water

6.return snakes and water bowls into tanks

JOB DONE

DO NOT SPRAY THE SNAKES OR WATER BOWLS

cheers shaun

shaunyboy · 11-05-12, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Agreed but Nix is 1/4 the cost and in places like where I live it's everywhere. PAM imho is better for enclosures but I bathed my snakes in a Nix solution and all of the mites came off right away. Not 2 or 3 days later when PAM kills them. So Nix is cool to use on the snake directly. Both have their bennefits. If I could get Nix today but PAM later I would treat today with Nix then spray the enclosures after my PAM came. Mites truly bother me. They need to go immediately once spotted. Not treating then to me would be like finding 5 or 6 leaches on a person and thinking " ahh I'll wait until my shipment is here to remove them"

I cured my mites long ago but have everything ready to go if I ever see one of those little buggers again. I have both Nix and PAM on standby

i hear what your saying regards nix and you like to act straight away

that said....

the second you spray tanks with mites,provent a mite starts killing the mites,it then waits on the eggs hatching and kills the mites as they leave the egg

what i like about provent a mite is...

once you treat the tanks,you know the mites are sorted out,because theres NO need for repeat treatments

as far as i know,ALL other methods require more than 1 treatment and putting chemicals directly onto the snake

i'm not keen on putting chemicals directly onto my snakes mate (just my way of thinking,i'm not being cheeky)

cheers shaun

Lankyrob · 11-05-12, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mymichelle12472

Ok ok... I'm sorry ..wow !! He said when he took him out of the water he had bubbles coming out of his nose . If he is still having bubbles coming out of his nose then obviously he is sick . Obviously your not going to mist him . All of my snakes are in critter condos with heat and humidity controllers in my opinion when snakes are in there shedding life if they don't have enough humidity they will weeze . So if no other symptoms other feeling dry and scaly then I help them out by misting lightly .. also I put my hand in there cage to feel if its not getting enough humidity or heat . Also if my snake was sick like that I would be giving my vet a call ASAP . Everyone is misunderstanding my post lol...

You have hygrometers and temp probes in your fingers??? COOL!!!

shaunyboy · 11-05-12, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

You have hygrometers and temp probes in your fingers??? COOL!!!

wish we could get fingers like that over here Rob

that would be cool

cheers shaun

Jim9075 · 11-05-12, 01:00 PM

Well it seems I was wrong about RI. Ever since I raised the humidity levels he has stopped the weezing sound and no more bubbles. I think the bubbles came from excessive soaking because of the mites. Im waiting on my provent a mite and just useing mite off for now. He has just went into pre-shead last night too. So hopefully after useing the provent a mite everything will be 100% :-)

Terranaut · 11-05-12, 01:05 PM

Do you know what your humidity levels are?

Jim9075 · 11-05-12, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

Do you know what your humidity levels are?

Well it was in the 40's. However my hygrometer was broke so it was giving me false readings of 60-70 percent (go figure) and I used another one and it said it was 45%. So I used a wet towel and it made it rise. So he stopped the RI symptoms. Im also thinking it is pre shed also. He is in a glass enclosure for now and I cant wait to put him in my snake room so I dont need to use lamps to keep a good ambient air temp. I picked up some NIX at the drug store today and followed instructions on applying it to everything and my carpet. Nix seems to kill mites quickly and im very happy with the results. I got my carpet from a pet store where I live and a guy their breeds them. I never buy from a pet store and im regretting it. However this carpet is extremely laid back and excepts rats with no problem. Im still very happy with him so he is worth the extra effort to treat everything.

Terranaut · 11-05-12, 08:53 PM

Thats all good news. Be sure to re Nix everything in 2-3 weeks and it should all be good.
45% humidity should have been fine. Heat lamps burn off moisture at an alarming rate if the enclosure has an open top. My beardie tank falls off to 20% ish in a room that is usually 60%+. I keep it at 50 minimum. Glad you didn't spend a fortune on a"24hr vet".
Good luck!!