When to change feeding schedule - Page 2

Ddub · 01-10-13, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jendee

I like that Kevins point that boas are semi aboreal. They truely are I have a pvc pole in all my x2x18 they use the poles often at night in the days closer to feeding when they are in hunting mode. When you take them out they are always on their way up..
But I still wouldnt call them active, i wouldnt call any snake active they conserve enerjy unless on the move for a "need" hunger, water, temp change..
And I love your guys feeding so lightly that is awesome!! Infact i think I feed the heaviest here which is amazing because Ive been told I starve my boas haha. Great to see guys!! *high five* getting rid of fat boas one at a time

And i may agree with the age metabolism thing...a little bit but more extreme that Ddub is stating...like of course a senior metabolism is going to slow down..but I dont think a neonate to say a 5 yr old takes any longer to digest their food.

I never mentioned that there was a HUGE difference and gave no indications of age. It was a general statement that they slow down with age. Is there anyone here that has raised more than a couple boas from neonate to 8+ years, keeps feeding records on your main collection, and feeds as food is needed rather than a tight schedule, or even just experiment around and record your findings? I realize i may be in the minority here, but try fasting a neonate and a 5 year adult for a month and get them good and cleaned out, then feed them and see which one poops first. The difference is not huge but then again neither is the difference between a 10 day feeding schedule and a 14 day. If you feed on a tight schedule as most folks do and never fast them for any reason it's unlikely you will happen upon such an observation.

Jendee · 01-10-13, 11:18 AM

Ive had a rather large collection for over 10 yrs now. I do keep records but have never played with it. Or experimented with a feeding system . After sitting here pondering...I kinda agree more. Just because...say Im out of frozen feeders, havent ordered yet or whatever adults can go a several months without it being an issue (not saying they have just saying they can I had to put adult boas Ive purchased an extreme diets) but a baby couldnt go what 6-8 wks before you start seeing body condition declining..the only answer to this would be a difference in metabolism....
Id still like to know who you are??

Ddub · 01-10-13, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jendee

Ive had a rather large collection for over 10 yrs now. I do keep records but have never played with it. Or experimented with a feeding system . After sitting here pondering...I kinda agree more. Just because...say Im out of frozen feeders, havent ordered yet or whatever adults can go a several months without it being an issue (not saying they have just saying they can I had to put adult boas Ive purchased an extreme diets) but a baby couldnt go what 6-8 wks before you start seeing body condition declining..the only answer to this would be a difference in metabolism....
Id still like to know who you are??

Lol, my name is David, im from NOLA! You're in many of the same fb groups as me so that's probably where you know me from. RI and rtb.net too.

Jendee · 01-10-13, 11:26 AM

Ooohhhh well thats where i recongize the pictures from haha i was beginning to be serious suspect lols

Ddub · 01-10-13, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jendee

Ooohhhh well thats where i recongize the pictures from haha i was beginning to be serious suspect lols

Lol, yeah I'm me. I actually busted someone on the boa keepers group the other day for stealing and posting pics saying the boa was theirs. Sad that people do that.

ReticMan123 · 01-10-13, 12:33 PM

Lol how did this become an argument on how long digestion takes?? I think that everyone uses relative terms such as appropriate size meals and large rats hoppers and
Colossal rabbits. When what's important is the weight of the prey vs the weight and age of the snake. Obviously since a young hatchling is consuming more than its
Body weight sometimes in month where an adult takes its body weight in maybe 6'months. I believe the digestion slows a bit but more due to te fact that a young snake is using more of its preys nutrients and fats to where an adult who is fully grown is not. Then comes in the factor of bcc va bci feeding. Retic and Burma male and female!!! There's so much and it's sooo confusing lol. To each his own

Ddub · 01-10-13, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ReticMan123

Lol how did this become an argument on how long digestion takes??

Lol, I made the unpopular claim that older boas take longer to digest! I never thought keeping meticulous records and sharing my findings would ever get me into trouble, but...

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I think you're wrong here. I'm no expert on these types of things but I still think you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Dude your wrong.

Also if you ask for my proof I can have it in two weeks when I feed everyone again.

I'm curious, do either of you keep feeding records? These statements make me think you do not. Does anyone besides Jendee and I keep records on your boas? If you don't keep records then how do you arrive at such conclusions? Do you really think a mere 2 week observation of your boa's feeding process will yield enough reliable information support such a claim?

KORBIN5895 · 01-10-13, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ddub

Lol, I made the unpopular claim that older boas take longer to digest! I never thought keeping meticulous records and sharing my findings would ever get me into trouble, but...

I'm curious, do either of you keep feeding records? These statements make me think you do not. Does anyone besides Jendee and I keep records on your boas? If you don't keep records then how do you arrive at such conclusions? Do you really think a mere 2 week observation of your boa's feeding process will yield enough reliable information support such a claim?

Since when did when a snake poop have anything to do with its digestion rate or metabolism? A member on here has a viper that poops just a couple times a year. Does that mean it took nine months to digest a mouse? No it doesn't. Pooping really has nothing to do with how fast a rodent is digested.

Pretty much all of my boas poop once a month. Do I keep records? No, that sounds Like work and I work enough without keeping tabs on what they ate and when they poop.

Ddub · 01-10-13, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Do I keep records? No, that sounds Like work and I work enough without keeping tabs on what they ate and when they poop.

Nuff said. You know, if you did keep records and had differing results from mine I could accept that, but there is no point arguing the merits of good record keeping of your collection to someone who feels a simple check in a box with a date is too much work! We will just have to agree to disagree.

And I must just have the most regular boas on the planet. I get a turd for every prey item I feed.

Jack C · 01-10-13, 03:00 PM

My boa has a serious feeding response so after a couple of months I notice he wasn't going at the rats so intensely, so I started feeding him less frequently as a sign he wasn't so hungry now at just around the two week mark he is striking like he did at the start.
So maybe your snakes will show you, like mine did when to stretch out the feeding schedule.

KORBIN5895 · 01-10-13, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ddub

Nuff said. You know, if you did keep records and had differing results from mine I could accept that, but there is no point arguing the merits of good record keeping of your collection to someone who feels a simple check in a box with a date is too much work! We will just have to agree to disagree.

And I must just have the most regular boas on the planet. I get a turd for every prey item I feed.

So is this about how often a snake poops or is it still about how fast a snake digests its prey? You're starting to muddy the waters....

Ddub · 01-10-13, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So is this about how often a snake poops or is it still about how fast a snake digests its prey? You're starting to muddy the waters....

Seriously? This conversation is serving absolutely no purpose. You feel the way you do and that's that. I don't care to change your mind even if I were capable of doing so. It just doesn't matter to me. I have already agreed to disagree with you, what more is there?

KORBIN5895 · 01-10-13, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ddub

Seriously? This conversation is serving absolutely no purpose. You feel the way you do and that's that. I don't care to change your mind even if I were capable of doing so. It just doesn't matter to me. I have already agreed to disagree with you, what more is there?

I accept your concession.

Ddub · 01-10-13, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I accept your concession.

I never conceded defeat. Just the overwhelming disire to stop arguing with a brick wall that has no empirical evidence to support any of his claims. After looking at some of your other posts here it seems you have quite a penchant for pointless argument. Good luck to you sir! This is the last I will post in this thread.

KORBIN5895 · 01-10-13, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ddub

I never conceded defeat. Just the overwhelming disire to stop arguing with a brick wall that has no empirical evidence to support any of his claims. After looking at some of your other posts here it seems you have quite a penchant for pointless argument. Good luck to you sir! This is the last I will post in this thread.

Name calling and stalking already?