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Old 10-14-12, 02:54 PM   #16
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Re: "Died because of mites."

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This guy should not have had a collection. Mites do not wipe out whole collections unless he was absolutely not paying attention for a loooong period of time. Were they hots or something?
nope, just balls. he's not the brightest crayon in the box, but now he helps out his friend who's snakes keep getting mites. I think he didn't really notice because they were in a rack...
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Old 10-14-12, 03:22 PM   #17
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nope, just balls. he's not the brightest crayon in the box, but now he helps out his friend who's snakes keep getting mites. I think he didn't really notice because they were in a rack...
Hmmm, how often did he look at them? Did they have a water dish to soak in? Poor things.
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Old 10-14-12, 05:07 PM   #18
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Re: "Died because of mites."

I have no idea, honestly =/ they always have a water dish, his rack set up was nice, i just wonder if he didn't check on them too often
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Old 10-14-12, 06:31 PM   #19
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Re: "Died because of mites."

im pretty sure a snake would start looking really ugly and obviousley sick before it would die from mites. i'm guessing they died from another "bug" or parasite which kills quicker.

or he could have just barely cared for them, but i doubt it as you said his racks wewre set up nice.
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Old 10-15-12, 03:26 PM   #20
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im pretty sure a snake would start looking really ugly and obviousley sick before it would die from mites. i'm guessing they died from another "bug" or parasite which kills quicker.

or he could have just barely cared for them, but i doubt it as you said his racks wewre set up nice.
You can have nice cages and still barely care for your animals. Think Petco

Anyway there are so many signs a snake is having problems before dying of mites. Bad sheds, food refusal, crankiness, and of course the actual bugs, all of which are quite noticeable loooong before death sets in for one snake let alone a whole collection. As for not being the brightest crayon in the box, I'd say he's probably the one who got pitched at the crayola factory following a machine malfunction. I'm really afraid for the guy he is "helping" now.
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Old 10-15-12, 03:30 PM   #21
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These days, we use black knight. Any new snake we bring in gets a fog treatment just in case. You just put the snake in a plastic bin with a lid, spray the black knight in the bin with the snake, and let it sit for a few minutes. I seriusly can not remember the last time I have seen even a single mite in my collection.
Awesome tip. Thanks
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You can have nice cages and still barely care for your animals. Think Petco

Anyway there are so many signs a snake is having problems before dying of mites. Bad sheds, food refusal, crankiness, and of course the actual bugs, all of which are quite noticeable loooong before death sets in for one snake let alone a whole collection. As for not being the brightest crayon in the box, I'd say he's probably the one who got pitched at the crayola factory following a machine malfunction. I'm really afraid for the guy he is "helping" now.
yeah. i dunno. everyone does make mistakes, though...I've never had mites. ever.and i like it that way.
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While it is not common, mites can cause death. It would have to be a substantial infestation that goes on for a long period of time. I do not see how a mite infestation can get to that point in responsible hands though. In the past, I have never used any chemicals to treat for mites. If I ever got a snake in that had them, I would give the snake a bath in water and mineral oil. The oil gets into the book lungs of the mites and kills them pretty fast. There is always something you can do even if you do not have access to the chemicals right away.

These days, we use black knight. Any new snake we bring in gets a fog treatment just in case. You just put the snake in a plastic bin with a lid, spray the black knight in the bin with the snake, and let it sit for a few minutes. I seriusly can not remember the last time I have seen even a single mite in my collection.
I just had to do these for my new Argentina Boa. Every place was out of PAM. It works fast and does the job. Thank god i quarantine her when i got her in my old snake room. Pissed me off i have her for a month before i seen a single one.
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I just had to do these for my new Argentina Boa. Every place was out of PAM. It works fast and does the job. Thank god i quarantine her when i got her in my old snake room. Pissed me off i have her for a month before i seen a single one.
They would be hard to see on her. You have to look closely and watch the eye and pit areas.
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Re: "Died because of mites."

How much mineral oil do you put in the bath?
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While it is not common, mites can cause death. It would have to be a substantial infestation that goes on for a long period of time. I do not see how a mite infestation can get to that point in responsible hands though. In the past, I have never used any chemicals to treat for mites. If I ever got a snake in that had them, I would give the snake a bath in water and mineral oil. The oil gets into the book lungs of the mites and kills them pretty fast. There is always something you can do even if you do not have access to the chemicals right away.

These days, we use black knight. Any new snake we bring in gets a fog treatment just in case. You just put the snake in a plastic bin with a lid, spray the black knight in the bin with the snake, and let it sit for a few minutes. I seriusly can not remember the last time I have seen even a single mite in my collection.
What kind of Black Knight the bedding or roach spray. and how long do you leave them in the tub? Like a couple minutes or five or more?
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Re: "Died because of mites."

Where do you get treatment from? My snakes don't have mites but just wondered if they ever got them would treatment from reptile stores be good enough or do I need to take them to the vet which is 40 miles away.
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Where do you get treatment from? My snakes don't have mites but just wondered if they ever got them would treatment from reptile stores be good enough or do I need to take them to the vet which is 40 miles away.
No need to go to the vets there are a few off the shelf treatments you can get. The one I used recently was callingtons which is safe to spray with the snake in the enclosure, you just have to remove the water for 24 hours. I did a complete clean down and then sprayed but you are meant to be able to leave everything in and treat, I just didn't want to risk it. Another is ardap which you remove the snake, clean down the enclosure and then spray and you have to leave it for a while until all of the fumes have gone before you put snakey back in and it is meant to be potent stuff. Prevent a mite is meant to be good but it is not easy to get hold of over here. There are a few other products that you can use or some people just use mineral oil on the snake and keep cleaning the enclosure but this can take a while I believe.
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Re: "Died because of mites."

You can buy Provent a Mite on Ebay, not cheap but i keep a couple of cans "just in case"
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Re: "Died because of mites."

Cheers guys. If your snake haven't got mites. Is there anyway they can get them if you don't introduce any new snakes. Would a dirty viv do it?
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