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07-25-12, 07:03 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
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Originally Posted by Jlassiter
Rob....
Why not provide a thermal gradient so the moellemdorffi can chose their temps at any given time?
Why force them to a constant 75F and your corns to a constant 80F?
Why not room temp (72F) for the snake room with hot spots of (90F) so the snakes have choices?
Another choice to provide is a humidity gradient..............
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
I don't know the actual poster but I'm going to suggest that maybe you just read the post wrong. They said they keep it in the "range" of those temperatures. Not necessarily just a constant temperature.
I could very well be wrong too but just food for thought.
Also, spectacular animals. I have not seen those around for quite some time.
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Thank you, Aaron.
Jlassiter, yes, I do provide a gradient. That gradient has been adjusted as I've monitored their behavior changes to different temperatures. I don't "force" anything to stay at one temperature. My racks have heat in the back to provide the gradient between the back and the front. My tanks have UTH's on one third to provide a gradient across the tank. "mid 80*F range" means around 80*-85* for my corns, my boas are around 84-92*, my sand boas have hot spots up to 95*. The ambient temperature of my home is 73*. That's the beauty of individual heat sources: they can be tweaked as needed to provide optimal care to each animal. If I notice a corn spending all of it's time in the hot spot, I'll bump it up a degree or two so that the specific animal feels more comfortable. One hide box in each tank is a "humid" hide, with a moist moss substrate that they can utilize when they choose.
Please don't make assumptions about my husbandry without knowing me.
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07-25-12, 09:46 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Oh...Okay...No biggie...
Gorgeous Moellendorffii
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09-05-12, 01:47 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Gorgeous animals!! Have you noticed them to need a more humid cage than corns? I have read that they need wet hides but I wondered if that was something to do with the imports being dehydrated coming in.
Jason
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09-06-12, 10:28 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
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Originally Posted by Jason_Hood
Gorgeous animals!! Have you noticed them to need a more humid cage than corns? I have read that they need wet hides but I wondered if that was something to do with the imports being dehydrated coming in.
Jason
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Hey Jason! Neither of mine really ever gravitate towards the humid segments of their tank. The only time they ever really go there is when they go in to shed. That being said, though, I did recently decide it'd be a fun little experiment to plant the male's tank (live plants, bioactive substrate and whatnot), and he loves it. I've seen him burrowing, climbing, "playing", etc. He uses every square inch of that tank, and I've seen him hiding and sleeping all over the place, so I'm more certain that he's comfortable in there, given that he's not all scrunched up in a corner.
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I keep and breed corns, balls, and other assorted colubrids.
15.12 corns, 3.4 balls, 1.2 Trans Pecos, 1.1 AHS, 1.1 ptyas mucosus, 0.1 coelognathus flavolineatus, 0.1 BCI, 0.1 GTP, 0.1 othriophis moellendorffi, 1.1 Leopard Geckos
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09-06-12, 11:13 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Stunning Snakes
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Reptile enthusiast: of course!
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09-06-12, 11:30 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Sounds awesome!! Would love to see pics!!!
Jason
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09-07-12, 12:22 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Stellar, thanks for sharing!
- h3
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09-07-12, 12:26 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Gorgeous snakes thanks for sharing
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09-07-12, 10:11 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
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I keep and breed corns, balls, and other assorted colubrids.
15.12 corns, 3.4 balls, 1.2 Trans Pecos, 1.1 AHS, 1.1 ptyas mucosus, 0.1 coelognathus flavolineatus, 0.1 BCI, 0.1 GTP, 0.1 othriophis moellendorffi, 1.1 Leopard Geckos
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09-08-12, 12:41 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Gorgeous!!! I need to pick some up this season!!
Jason
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09-08-12, 04:04 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Nice snake and setup.
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09-09-12, 12:39 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Very cool I had never even heard of them until I saw your thread thanks for sharing and teaching us something new!
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09-09-12, 01:01 AM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Rob,
Have you seen the "patternless" moellendorffi?
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09-09-12, 04:29 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
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Rob,
Have you seen the "patternless" moellendorffi?
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YES! And I want one VERY badly! Haha! Was it ever proven as genetic?
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I keep and breed corns, balls, and other assorted colubrids.
15.12 corns, 3.4 balls, 1.2 Trans Pecos, 1.1 AHS, 1.1 ptyas mucosus, 0.1 coelognathus flavolineatus, 0.1 BCI, 0.1 GTP, 0.1 othriophis moellendorffi, 1.1 Leopard Geckos
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09-09-12, 07:00 PM
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes
Yes I believe it has.
The initial female produced more of them.
My buddy down in Miami has some offspring from her that are patternless...but have some slight areas of pattern.....
Here's a photo of one of the offspring:
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