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Old 07-25-12, 07:03 AM   #16
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Re: 100-Flower Ratsnakes

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Why not provide a thermal gradient so the moellemdorffi can chose their temps at any given time?
Why force them to a constant 75F and your corns to a constant 80F?

Why not room temp (72F) for the snake room with hot spots of (90F) so the snakes have choices?

Another choice to provide is a humidity gradient..............
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I don't know the actual poster but I'm going to suggest that maybe you just read the post wrong. They said they keep it in the "range" of those temperatures. Not necessarily just a constant temperature.

I could very well be wrong too but just food for thought.


Also, spectacular animals. I have not seen those around for quite some time.


Thank you, Aaron.

Jlassiter, yes, I do provide a gradient. That gradient has been adjusted as I've monitored their behavior changes to different temperatures. I don't "force" anything to stay at one temperature. My racks have heat in the back to provide the gradient between the back and the front. My tanks have UTH's on one third to provide a gradient across the tank. "mid 80*F range" means around 80*-85* for my corns, my boas are around 84-92*, my sand boas have hot spots up to 95*. The ambient temperature of my home is 73*. That's the beauty of individual heat sources: they can be tweaked as needed to provide optimal care to each animal. If I notice a corn spending all of it's time in the hot spot, I'll bump it up a degree or two so that the specific animal feels more comfortable. One hide box in each tank is a "humid" hide, with a moist moss substrate that they can utilize when they choose.

Please don't make assumptions about my husbandry without knowing me.
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Old 07-25-12, 09:46 AM   #17
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Oh...Okay...No biggie...

Gorgeous Moellendorffii
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Old 09-05-12, 01:47 PM   #18
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Gorgeous animals!! Have you noticed them to need a more humid cage than corns? I have read that they need wet hides but I wondered if that was something to do with the imports being dehydrated coming in.

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Old 09-06-12, 10:28 PM   #19
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Gorgeous animals!! Have you noticed them to need a more humid cage than corns? I have read that they need wet hides but I wondered if that was something to do with the imports being dehydrated coming in.

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Hey Jason! Neither of mine really ever gravitate towards the humid segments of their tank. The only time they ever really go there is when they go in to shed. That being said, though, I did recently decide it'd be a fun little experiment to plant the male's tank (live plants, bioactive substrate and whatnot), and he loves it. I've seen him burrowing, climbing, "playing", etc. He uses every square inch of that tank, and I've seen him hiding and sleeping all over the place, so I'm more certain that he's comfortable in there, given that he's not all scrunched up in a corner.
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Old 09-06-12, 11:30 PM   #21
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Sounds awesome!! Would love to see pics!!!

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Stellar, thanks for sharing!

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Gorgeous snakes thanks for sharing
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Old 09-07-12, 10:11 PM   #24
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Thanks everyone!

Jason, here's a couple shots of his current viv. He's getting ready to get bumped up into a 30 gallon planted viv.







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Gorgeous!!! I need to pick some up this season!!

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Nice snake and setup.
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Very cool I had never even heard of them until I saw your thread thanks for sharing and teaching us something new!
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Rob,
Have you seen the "patternless" moellendorffi?
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Have you seen the "patternless" moellendorffi?
YES! And I want one VERY badly! Haha! Was it ever proven as genetic?
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Old 09-09-12, 07:00 PM   #30
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Yes I believe it has.
The initial female produced more of them.
My buddy down in Miami has some offspring from her that are patternless...but have some slight areas of pattern.....

Here's a photo of one of the offspring:
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