Help Me Decide? - Page 2

UwabamiReptiles · 05-23-12, 09:11 PM

IJs get a lot bigger than cornsnakes, but my choice would be a carpet python. Out of the two you said you were interested in, the dumeril would probably be the better than the brb. I've never had a dum before but everyone on here that has them have nothing but great things to say about them. PM exwizard on here if you're interested in them, he can give you a lot great info on them.

hellosugaree · 05-25-12, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GarterPython

How bout a Carpet! A carpet is my dream snake. Irian Jaya Carpet Pythons don't get much bigger than corn snakes.

Here are a few pics of IJs (Irian Jayas) I pulled up off the internet. None of these people are me and these snakes are not mine. These also do not represent an absolute maximum size, as some IJs will over-acheive and get bigger, while others will stay a bit smaller. But just so you can see they they do get quite a bit bigger than a corn snake.

This does not in any way mean that they are not an awesome choice. They are fantastic and amazing snakes, but they definitely require a larger enclosure and different husbandry than a corn snake.

Falco21 · 05-25-12, 10:16 AM

^^ Corn snakes get around 4-6 feet. It all depends on which carpet python you are speaking of. For example:

Jungle Carpets can get up to around 8 feet.
Coastal Carpets can get as high up as 11 feet, but usually stay around 7-9 feet.
Irian Jaya Carpets usually grow around 4-5 feet, females around 5-6 feet.

Now there have been "freak" cases, like anything else, but again, it all depends on which carpet you're talking about.

Falco21 · 05-25-12, 10:18 AM

Where are you guys getting your numbers saying Irian Jaya's get much larger than Corn's? LOL

hellosugaree · 05-25-12, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Falco21

^^ Corn snakes get around 4-6 feet. It all depends on which carpet python you are speaking of. For example:

Jungle Carpets can get up to around 8 feet.
Coastal Carpets can get as high up as 11 feet, but usually stay around 7-9 feet.
Irian Jaya Carpets usually grow around 4-5 feet, females around 5-6 feet.

Now there have been "freak" cases, like anything else, but again, it all depends on which carpet you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Falco21

Where are you guys getting your numbers saying Irian Jaya's get much larger than Corn's? LOL

Length is not the only thing that determines the size of a snake. By your reasoning, using repeatedly regurgitated length guideline sizes on care sheets, this would mean that boas and corn snakes are the same size because some smaller boas grow to around 4-6 feet. I don't know any 6 foot corn snakes that eat rabbits...

This is not a simple "numbers" thing using the length guidelines you find on a care sheet. Your average IJ will be quite a bit bigger than your average corn snake.

Mathayus · 05-26-12, 09:42 PM

I'm actually leaning toward a Ball. I'm not all that experienced with snake care just yet, and I think it would be somewhat looked down upon if I did not have a ball. Sort of like how every tarantula collection needs at least one Chilean Rose. But I am totally loving the look of those carpets....

GarterPython · 05-26-12, 09:45 PM

You are not frowned apon if you don't have a ball. The carpets get the same length as a corn was my point. If you like the carpets then research them. Don't feel like you are being forced into anything. Get what you like.

exwizard · 05-27-12, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GarterPython

You are not frowned apon if you don't have a ball. The carpets get the same length as a corn was my point. If you like the carpets then research them. Don't feel like you are being forced into anything. Get what you like.

I second this. We have never had Balls. Our first snake was a Dum. In my opinion, they are easier to take care of than Balls because their humidity requirements are not as high and they are better eaters than Balls in general. It all boils down to what YOU want. What others think about your decision is secondary.

hellosugaree · 05-27-12, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GarterPython

You are not frowned apon if you don't have a ball. The carpets get the same length as a corn was my point. If you like the carpets then research them. Don't feel like you are being forced into anything. Get what you like.

I agree with not having to get a ball python. I dont have one and have no plans to get one ever. But, once again, carpet pythons and corn snakes do not stay the same size. Have you ever seen a fully grown carpet in person? I've never seen corn snakes this big:

Please also check out marvelfreak's 8.5 foot 14 lb jungle carpet in this thread. Jungles are supposed to be among the smaller carpets:

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/morel...le-carpet.html

Please tell me your corn snake isn't planning on getting that big?

Mathayus · 05-27-12, 10:35 AM

Do Dums or Carpets make very good "lap snakes"? I really like the idea of a super calm snake that I can carry around on my shoulders or have sitting in my lap when I'm on the computer or watching TV. How are those two snakes in this respect?

GarterPython · 05-27-12, 10:52 AM

Irian Jayas get the same size in length if it is a male! Not all Carpet Python's it says Irian Jayas in the very first post of mine.

GarterPython · 05-27-12, 10:54 AM

I don't actually own a carpet just researching them so I don't exactly know but if you do want a calm snake than it actually does sound like a Ball Python would be good. We just don't want you to be feeling pressured into a Ball because it is one of the main starter snakes.

hellosugaree · 05-27-12, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathayus

Do Dums or Carpets make very good "lap snakes"? I really like the idea of a super calm snake that I can carry around on my shoulders or have sitting in my lap when I'm on the computer or watching TV. How are those two snakes in this respect?

If you want something that doesn't do anything and will just sit still, get a pet rock, aka ball python. Carpets tend to be a bit more curious and may not want to sit still while you play on the computer. Carpet pythons really do have a cool temperament though. Their inquisitive nature is part of why they are so enjoyable and rewarding. An option for you would be to adopt a snake that is mostly grown so you can have an idea of its individual personality before you adopt. Individual snakes even within the same species can definitely have very different personalities.

jaleely · 05-27-12, 07:30 PM

individuals can def have different personalities. I have a cool ball python that is curious, but sweet, and two that freak out and hate being held (i did get them as rescues, and both had been abused though). My carpet python won't hold still for a second.
One thing that is really awesome that hasn't been mentioned is a sand boa. My little male is a little wiggly sometimes, but has been known to hold still and sit in my hand. He stays pretty small. My female kenyan flame sand boa is half grown, and laaaazy! she just chills out. and is SOO cute. She's about two feet long now.

My one hognose snake hangs out and sits in my bra : )
I won't be doing that anymore though, since my other younger one seems to think i'm food and keeps biting me. He is NOT a holder...lol

Hmmm Bolivian boas stay "small" at 6 feet. They are slow growers and our female is probably the most docile and sweet natured snake we have. She actually doesn't get much attention because she's so docile.

Dumeri's boas are pretty nice too, though they annoy me to no end that the go off food for half a year...moreso than my ball pythons.

Mathayus · 05-28-12, 09:34 AM

I really like the look of sand boas, but I'm looking for something bigger right now. But I am definitely going to get one one of these days. Think I'm gonna go with the Ball, but I'll find a nice looking pastel or a spider, something pretty but moderately cheap. If nothing else, a cool patterned normal from the LPS!