Introducing "Kink" The Spider Ball Python - Page 2

KSTAR · 04-27-12, 10:18 AM

no the normal i had picked up for a friend of mine while he was at work and presented the spider to me and i took him...but heres a picture of the normal......

exwizard · 04-27-12, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mykee

I can't believe a breeder sold you that animal!
You may hate to hear it, but that animal should have been tossed in the freezer right out of the egg. No one can say that that animal won't be bred and pass on inferior genetics.

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Originally Posted by KSTAR

It was given to me by him when I had bought a normal from him I didn't purchase him...do
You think he's in pain or etc as he lives?

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Originally Posted by mykee

Pain? Who knows. But the original breeder cannot guarantee that this genetically "defective" (twice) isn't going to be bred. Absolutely disgusting.

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Originally Posted by KSTAR

I don't care about him not breeding I just think it was worth a shot to give him a better shot instead of the breeder disposing him if he couldn't find no one to take him and I came along and did so and he's been great ever since

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Originally Posted by mykee

No, you misunderstand me. My concern isn't that he won't breed, my concern is that he CAN breed and will be bred, if not by you, the next owner, or the next owner, or the next owner passing on two genetic defects. That is why I am surprised that the breeder didn't freeze him right out of the the egg.

I think this snake can and will live a full life right with you. I dont see you passing him on to somebody else, then him getting passed to somebody else and so on and so on. I commend you for giving him a chance to live.

Its not all about breeding anyway.

**Aaron_S** · 04-27-12, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

I think this snake can and will live a full life right with you. I dont see you passing him on to somebody else, then him getting passed to somebody else and so on and so on. I commend you for giving him a chance to live.

Its not all about breeding anyway.

You're right it's not all about breeding but I follow enough classifieds to see "die hard for life keepers" up and sell their collection for nothing just to get rid of it when the tranmission goes on the car. Some bill collector is calling, a divorce, etc. Noone can assure me that that snake will be with this person for the next 20 years.

KSTAR · 04-27-12, 11:09 PM

Yea All That Sucks....I Been Working With Him and decided to take him instead of him hitting the pearly gates...and ima do it till the end

jaleely · 04-27-12, 11:53 PM

Spiders shouldn't be acceptable as a "morph" anyway, but if this guy is thriving i say more power to you, Kstar! If you do ever have to give him up for *any* reason, please feel free to contact me, or i know there are a few others on here who would take him and not breed him.

I think he's adorable, though i feel sorry for him. I really just think that breeder shouldn't have been breeding deformed snakes anyway, but hey it's what's popular so there ya go. I don't think any morph or color combo is worth bringing unnecessary bad genetics into the world for no reason other than to do it because they can, or to make money, or if people see it as a challenge, etc.

KSTAR · 04-28-12, 12:46 AM

I Agree with you @ Jaleely...and I took him away from seeing the freezer or someone that would treat him wrong and be impatient with him even though he's no different from a normal ball but at times he can be a bit slow at eating but I still give him 110% at all times

exwizard · 04-28-12, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KSTAR

Yea All That Sucks....I Been Working With Him and decided to take him instead of him hitting the pearly gates...and ima do it till the end

Kudos to you in every way

**Aaron_S** · 04-28-12, 06:36 AM

Does anyone own any albinos,pieds, axanthics, anery, hypo in any other species? Or have you ever? If so you're owning genetic defects and all breeders of them are breeding "deformed" snakes.

exwizard · 04-28-12, 06:45 AM

I dont do Balls and never will because they have been worked as much as they have, but they do make great pets and are very docile. Anyone who has these snakes as pets can tell you how rewarding it is to have them.

mykee · 04-28-12, 07:25 AM

Aaron's a defect.

alessia55 · 04-28-12, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You're right it's not all about breeding but I follow enough classifieds to see "die hard for life keepers" up and sell their collection for nothing just to get rid of it when the tranmission goes on the car. Some bill collector is calling, a divorce, etc. Noone can assure me that that snake will be with this person for the next 20 years.

But this spider with a wobble and a kink isn't worth much at all (monetarily speaking). And it's his only snake. It would do him any good to try and sell it for when his transmission goes out, or to help pay a bill. KSTAR will probably keep it strictly as a pet for as long as possible. It's unclear whether snakes with kinks are in pain or have any reduced quality of life. As far as I see it, Kink is much like my Kaybe... a pet that won't ever breed, and that will be kept for the entirety of his life.

exwizard · 04-28-12, 08:37 AM

Hear Hear!

mykee · 04-28-12, 08:42 AM

99.9999% of all breeders started out with one or two ball pythons that "are just pets and will never be bred".

exwizard · 04-28-12, 08:44 AM

Thats all well and good but I have no doubts that KSTAR will be that .0001% that will remain that way.

alessia55 · 04-28-12, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mykee

99.9999% of all breeders started out with one or two ball pythons that "are just pets and will never be bred".

Maybe. But not all. In fact, I know more people who have ball pythons as pets than I know of breeders (in person). I don't plan on ever breeding my babies. I bought them strictly for the purpose of keeping them as pets. And when I did that (just like when I buy any animal) I do it knowing that pets are a lifetime commitment. I'd like to believe that KSTAR feels the same way about his pet, Kink.

Personally I think your "99.9999%" is a bit high.