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04-06-12, 08:31 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
i raise my hot end temps by 5 degree's F.
that usually cures it in the early stages
the fact your snake has mucas,suggests a cousre of antibiotics may be required
don't panic pal,snakes are hardier than they look,it will be ok until the vet opens
please,let us know how it goes at the vets
all the best shaun
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04-06-12, 08:45 PM
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mamma bear
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
Thanks Shauny, I have raised the temp by about 5 degree's. And he is staying at the hot end,which is good.
I'll call the vet once they open. Don't know if they're closed the whole weekend or not.
Someone asked about a shed. This is my newest addition and I have only had him not quite 3 weeks. He has not shed for me yet.
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04-07-12, 08:20 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
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Originally Posted by Strutter769
Please don't do this without searching the posts, but I thought I read recently (within the past week) to hold his head under water? Something about that causing him to hopefully breathe the mucus out?
I'm sorry, my memory isn't the best, so I apologize for the sketchy details.
Best of luck curing this bug for Torruk!
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baths are used to unblock nostrils and break up mucas mate
a snotted up snake,i bath twice per day
holding its head under water for 20 to 30 seconds at a time
once the mucas starts breaking up,and you start to see small amounts of air bubbles coming out the blocked nostril,i hold the snake under water a little longer,eventually unblocking the nostril completely
you just have to judge how much the nostrils unblocking and hold under water accordingly
vets reccomend this method and its worked the few times i've used it
baths do help get the mucas loose and out the snake,which helps it regain full health
the snake also needs ANTIBIOTICS
cheers shaun
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04-07-12, 08:52 AM
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mamma bear
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
ya I am sure he does after last night, I heard him sneeze at least 4 times before I fell asleep. His nostrils are not visibly blocked, he is not breathing through his mouth, so now it's a waiting game till one of the exotic vets open up.
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04-07-12, 09:06 AM
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
Sorry I am doing it on this thread but how do I make a thread. please help
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04-07-12, 09:24 AM
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mamma bear
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
find the proper forum to post in (ie: food for though= feeding subjects) and at the top left there is a button to push "make new thread"
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04-07-12, 10:32 AM
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Super Genius
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
Alright, first things first. If your snake has mucous in the mouth, it is at an advanced state and requires a vet, culture, swab and antibiotics. Any at-home husbandry tweaks will not cure this on it's own, it will only help until he sees a vet.
Second; quarantine!! Assuming you put this animal in quarantine when you got him, he should still be there now. DO NOT touch anything after dealing with this animal, the bacteria from an RI is VERY CONTAGIOUS.
Third: DO NOT bathe him. He's already congested, snakes aren't humans, they do not have the ability to cough up the phlegm so additional stress and/or "water therapy" is unnecessary and dangerous.
Fourth: temps should be 95 ish and get that humidity up to where you have it during a shed cycle (90%+) All the extra humidity will do will keep the phlegm in his lung fluid and stop it from becoming solid and killing him.
Fifth; don't try to feed; with an immuno-compromised snake, the less stress the better.
Good luck.
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04-07-12, 10:48 AM
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
hey im new!!!!!
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04-07-12, 10:49 AM
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
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04-07-12, 10:51 AM
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mamma bear
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
Thanks Mykee!! I have upped the temps to 95/96
Yes he is in quarantine as I have only had him 3 weeks. Only I touch him and hubby is taking care of the corns so I don't even have to go near them.
The bath thing sounded weird to me so I did not do that to him, I didn't want to stress him out or make his condition worse
Ok, I won't be trying to feed him now, I was wondering about that since tomorrow would have been his scheduled feeding.
I HAVE FINALLY found a herp vet that will see him today!! our appt is at 11:30, so I'll fill you all in when we get back.
BTW, I got even more worried overnight as I heard sneezing at least 4-5 times before I fell asleep. So I am glad I finally found a vet who would see him today, all the others were booking into next week!!
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04-07-12, 11:07 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
i'm NOT saying a snake can cough,but it has the ability to blow upper respiritory mucas out mate
it does it the same way it would,if it was trying to clear a piece of shed stuck up a nostril
they have the ability to create a loud hiss,by expelling air at speed through the airways,i seen both carpets i treated expell mucas the same way
1 carpet was a rescue with pnemonia,it regained 100% health
the 2nd carpet had lung disorder that eventually lead to death
all i'm saying is for an experienced keeper,bathing a snake can have benefits,in certain circumstances
an inexperienced keeper may well do more harm than good though
to the op
bathing should only take place,if your " vet " says it will help
cheers shaun
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04-07-12, 11:58 AM
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Super Genius
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
Double post...
Last edited by mykee; 04-07-12 at 12:13 PM..
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04-07-12, 12:02 PM
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Super Genius
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
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"all i'm saying is for an experienced keeper,bathing a snake can have benefits,in certain circumstances"
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I'm with you, but certainly not in this case. The trachea swells and gets plugged up with mucous during an upper RI, limiting it's ability to make a strong, water-proof seal during inhalation, so bathing a snake will allow water down into the lung, that's the last thing we want as there is no way for the lung to be cleared of that water. Compounded by the heavier mucous, the lungs could fill with a water/mucous mixture and drown the animal.
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04-07-12, 12:04 PM
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Super Genius
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
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"btw thats my calote eating a fly!! oh and sorry i dont know how to help!!!!!!!!!!!"
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No one cares, go away and start your own thread. This one is for people who can offer advice based on their experience.
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04-07-12, 03:30 PM
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mamma bear
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Re: Something is wrong with Torruk, help please??
alright, back from the vet, he definately has a RI. she gave him an injection there and sent me home with 3 weeks of injections and we have are-check scheduled in 3 weeks.
BTW- for those who know about all this stuff they prescribed Tribrissen 24% injectable @ 0.09cc, today, tomorrow and then every second day till we go back for a recheck. he weighed in at 740g.
Vet says an otherwise healthy, awesome snake.
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