Do reptiles have feelings? - Page 2

mykee · 03-23-12, 05:19 PM

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"But I truly believe that all reptiles can show affection. Maybe not the same way as dogs but I really think that a reptile can have feelings and be attached to its owner. This is what I think. Anyone else?"

No on all counts.

Gauxgaux · 03-25-12, 10:42 AM

Absolutely. All creatures on this planet have souls and a purpose to fulfill. If you gain a snakes trust, that says a lot about you as a person. If you break that trust, snakes will find a way to fend for themselves. They don't need humans. But humans have this insatiable desire to catch animals, cage them, and study them. Snakes, just lie dogs and cats, don't like to be kept in a small tank for life.

I have 2 black racers and a baby corn snake. The corn is tiny and is so happy with life. My female racer is 5 feet long and the male is 3 feet. I let them live loose in my studio, with a 23 gallon tank that they're free to go in and out of. Lucie rules the roost. Gucci hides and tries to bite me whenever I come near. It's a matter of gaining trust and respect from him.

CK SandBoas · 03-25-12, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauxgaux

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I have 2 black racers and a baby corn snake. The corn is tiny and is so happy with life. My female racer is 5 feet long and the male is 3 feet. I let them live loose in my studio, with a 23 gallon tank that they're free to go in and out of. Lucie rules the roost. Gucci hides and tries to bite me whenever I come near. It's a matter of gaining trust and respect from him.

I am sorry, but there is so many things wrong right there, in that statement.

Bradyloach · 03-25-12, 11:32 AM

Captive bred animals will be happy In a big tank as that's all they ever known. They need to be caged with proper heat and conditions.

alessia55 · 03-25-12, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauxgaux

I have 2 black racers and a baby corn snake. The corn is tiny and is so happy with life. My female racer is 5 feet long and the male is 3 feet. I let them live loose in my studio, with a 23 gallon tank that they're free to go in and out of. Lucie rules the roost. Gucci hides and tries to bite me whenever I come near. It's a matter of gaining trust and respect from him.

Ok, I'm going to try and tackle this one...

The racers should not be co-habitated, no matter how large the enclosure. Letting them live loose in your studio has so many dangers:
- you won't be able to monitor their individual health
- you won't know which one is pooping and urinating
- you can't give them a proper heat gradient in a room that big
- you can lose one, or both of them
- they can get stuck somewhere and you won't find them in time
- Gucci is probably defensive because she's stressed because of the lack of a controlled environment, and having to compete with Lucie
I'm sure there are more, but those should be enough. I can't seem to rack up any good reasons for letting two snakes live loose in a studio room.

Gauxgaux · 03-25-12, 12:05 PM

Being attacked all over the place on this site.

Look people, I am in my studio 22 hours of the day. I am the shepherd. Gucci does not fear anything. He is going out of his way to bite me. Lucie trusts me. She's a giant beauty. The ferret can't stand her cage. She sleeps most hours under my couch. My cat is plain stupid and paws at the snakes like yarn. My cornsnake lives in a 23 gallon tank. My spider and frog live happily in a 10 gallon tank.

I know my ****. Stop believing everything you read.

Bradyloach · 03-25-12, 12:12 PM

Spider and a snake in the same tank? Woah

alessia55 · 03-25-12, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauxgaux

Being attacked all over the place on this site.

Look people, I am in my studio 22 hours of the day. I am the shepherd. Gucci does not fear anything. He is going out of his way to bite me. Lucie trusts me. She's a giant beauty. The ferret can't stand her cage. She sleeps most hours under my couch. My cat is plain stupid and paws at the snakes like yarn. My cornsnake lives in a 23 gallon tank. My spider and frog live happily in a 10 gallon tank.

I know my ****. Stop believing everything you read.

Your not being attacked. Your being explained (nicely!) that the environment you have your animals in (in particular, your reptiles) is not what's best for them. Your cats and your ferret can have free roam of the studio- fine by me! My cats definitely have free roam of my house. But the reptiles need their own safe place away from them.
Your posts have shown that you don't know your "****," since most (if not all) responsible keepers will point you in the direction that reptiles need to be housed individually in their own enclosures. Your cat pawing at the snakes as if they were yarn is eventually going to harm the snakes, and she could possibly bite them or kill them.
Everyone on here cares about the well-being of everyone's animals, and we only want to give you the information you need to enrich, enhance, or change the quality of life of your own animals.

gonesnakee · 03-25-12, 12:51 PM

Well I have to say that 1/2 the BS presented here just makes me shake my head &/or LMAO

LOL
Some folks have some pretty messed up ideas to say the least.
Least some folks "get it" me I refuse to get into it with folks that most obviously DO NOT.
Nuff Said Mark
P.S. instincts people, primal instincts

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 01:17 PM

This troll is showing up everywhere in here...ugh ... stop feeding the troll.

mykee · 03-25-12, 01:23 PM

Me thinks GauxGaux should gogo. Away.

Gungirl · 03-25-12, 01:24 PM

Lol umm.. yeah I think so as well. I am not sure why they are being allowed to troll the entire site with their lameness.

BarelyBreathing · 03-25-12, 01:34 PM

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. What if GauxGaux is truly just severely misguided?

gonesnakee · 03-25-12, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. What if GauxGaux is truly just severely misguided?

Sad thing is due to this we give far too many Trolls the benefit of the doubt & then there are also the terribly misguided that cannot be told any different as well

LOL Mark

BarelyBreathing · 03-25-12, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gonesnakee

Sad thing is due to this we give far too many Trolls the benefit of the doubt & then there are also the terribly misguided that cannot be told any different as well

LOL Mark

It's too true. It's part of the reason why I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt. If they're truly just trolls, then chances are there are no animals on the other end that are suffering, and nobody gets hurt. If they are terribly misguided, and we just assume they are trolls, then it's the animals who are suffering.