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01-18-12, 12:12 PM
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mamma bear
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
well you let me know when there are babies from your blues!! I can't get one until at least June, but your blues are so stunning!!
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02-08-12, 04:01 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
Unfortunately all members of Thamnophis are prohibited in BC without a permit. Unless you're a Zoo or accredited scientific research facility you're not likely to get one of those permits. From the BC regs:
From:
BC Wildlife Act - Schedule A
[section 1]
[en. B.C. Reg. 253/2000, App. 2, s. 9; am. B.C. Regs. 132/2002, s. (b); 120/2009, Sch. 1.]
http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws ... /13_168_90
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Wildlife prescribed
1 The vertebrates listed in Schedule A are prescribed as wildlife for the purposes of the definition of "wildlife" in section 1 of the Wildlife Act. ...
4 Reptiles of the following species:
(a) all species of the family Emydidae — pond and river turtles;
(b) all species of the family Trionychidae — soft-shelled turtles;
(c) all species of the family Chelydridae — snapping turtles;
(d) Repealed. [B.C. Reg. 120/2009, Sch. 1, s. 2 (a).]
(e) all species of the genus Podarcis — wall lizards;
(f) all species of the genus Phrynosoma — horned lizards;
(g) all species of the genus Eumeces — skinks;
(h) all species of the genus Elgaria — alligator lizards;
(i) all species of the genus Thamnophis — garter snakes;
(j) Charina bottae — rubber boa;
(k) Coluber constrictor — racer;
(l) Contia tenuis — sharptail snake;
(m) Hypsiglena torquata — night snake;
(n) Pituophis catenifer — gopher snake;
(o) nora semiannulata — ground snake;
(p) Crotalus oreganus — western rattlesnake.
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02-08-12, 04:04 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
I also followed up with an email asking the BC officials to clarify if it was meant to just be the native species of Thamnophis since it was listed in the section pertaining to native species and received this reply:
Hello Mr. Stinson,
Thank you for your email regarding Thamnophis sp. and the Wildlife Act. All species of the genus Thamnophis are considered wildlife (NOT Controlled Alien Species). However, a person who wants to possess any Thamnophis species (both dead or alive) would still need to have a permit from the Fish, Wildlife and Habitat Management Branch.
Please visit the Permit and Authorization Service Bureau at Permit and Authorization Service Bureau - Natural Resource Operations - Province of British Columbia for more information on applying for permits to possess wildlife in BC. I should also mention that there is a very low likelihood of receiving a permit to possess wildlife as a pet in BC.
I hope this helps to answer your questions and provides more clarity regarding the legality of possessing Garter Snakes in BC.
Best regards,
Jen Smith
Human Dimensions Specialist
Fish, Wildlife and Habitat Management Branch
BC Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations
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02-08-12, 11:13 AM
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mamma bear
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
awwww, crappy. I guess that I won't be getting that stunning blue from Wayne!!
But thanks for finding that for me, as all I found were the links in my OP which didn't mention anything!!
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02-08-12, 11:25 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
Quote:
Originally Posted by infernalis
There is no such thing as any Thamnophis species outside the north/central American continent.
Any information stating otherwise is incorrect.
The geographic range of TRUE garter snakes is from Central Mexico to Alaska, Atlantic coast to Pacific coast.
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I beleive there is a genus of snakes originating in africa that are also commonly referred to as Garter snakes. And around the world I am sure there are several other garter snakes. We may know our thams as garter snakes but that doesn't mean there aren't others too! This is why common names are no good!!!
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02-08-12, 11:28 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
That's why I belive word number 8 in the quoted block of text says Thamnophis
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02-08-12, 11:34 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
Quote:
Originally Posted by infernalis
That's why I belive word number 8 in the quoted block of text says Thamnophis
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It does not.
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02-08-12, 11:37 AM
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Re: Not sure if Garters ARE banned in BC
says you..
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