Wish me Good Luck with my Parents - Page 2

alessia55 · 12-04-11, 08:36 PM

Rosy boas and sand boas stay well under 4 feet and are calm snakes. Look into them and see if they appeal to you and your parents

KORBIN5895 · 12-04-11, 09:09 PM

Is it possible that they are getting you a snake for Christmas and are just trying to throw you off? My wife does that to me.

GarterPython · 12-04-11, 09:13 PM

Yea I thought that too but my parents arent that nice. Its my birthday on the 10 of December and as a early birthday present they got me a book. I don't want to get my hopes up because with my dad it almost never happens. When and if Wayne reads this can u please tell me about how big most of your Garder Snakes are.

youngster · 12-04-11, 09:30 PM

Garter snakes stay small. Definitely under 4 feet but it depends on the species.

GarterPython · 12-04-11, 09:45 PM

K do you guys no any Garder Snake Breeder pages that I could look at the different species and color morphs.

jarich · 12-05-11, 08:23 AM

It sounds like maybe your parents could be afraid of snakes, and that is the reason they dont want you getting one. If thats the case, then you have a couple things that are possible. One, you could try working on them with other peoples snakes. In other words, take them over to a friend's house who has a snake or the pet store and bring it out while they are there. Let them see that it is not crazy, biting and going to kill them. Let them see how calm it is, how good you can be with it, and the controlled nature of the animal. It may take a while, but if you truly want this then that may be the commitment that is required. Two, you could approach your biology teacher and see if he/she would be willing to get one in the classroom. While it wouldnt be yours exclusively, you would still get to see and work with it everyday. Odds are if your teacher gets it because of you, you could also be instrumental in its care and upkeep. You are not far away from my hometown of Rocky Mountain House. We had a biology teacher there who was famous in Alberta, his name is Alfred VonHollen. He had an entire zoo in the junior high. I mean ZOO. We had class everyday with numerous reticulated pythons, burmese pythons, toucans, turtles, lizards, small mammals, etc in our classroom. Talk about an awesome way to teach biology. He won so many awards as a teacher for his dedication. Get your teacher hooked and you might be up to your eyeballs in reptiles!

Norm66 · 12-05-11, 08:30 AM

I'm not a parent, but I don't think it's cool when anyone makes a deal and then reneges on it. I'm sure your parents have their reasons though and they could be anything from not believing you'd take good care of it to them just being afraid of snakes.

My only advice would be to be consistent in your approach, but yet not be too annoying with constant requests. Continue to educate yourself and maybe they'll give in at some point.

Good luck.

PS: Jarich, gives good advice I think.

FangsAnarchy · 12-05-11, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by molson102

What about garter snakes or Rat snakes. Ball Pyhtons and King snakes can be all over the place thought. Sometimes there ong somethimes there short. I dont know much about garter snakes or rat snakes yet.

My black rat snake got pretty big. I keep saying he is about 5 feet but he very well could be six. I am 5'2" and he is longer than I am tall. Sweet snake, but he did get a lot bigger than I expected. I have a friend with a rat snake that I think was just a little over 4 feet much smaller than mine.

This picture really doesn't do his size justice he is doubled up under his hide which is long with a good portion of his midsection outside of the hide

Snakefood · 12-05-11, 05:10 PM

Go look at Waynes "garter snake thread" he's got DOZENS of different morphs on that one

**Aaron_S** · 12-05-11, 10:15 PM

You asked for reasons why snakes are better to keep than lizards. You feed them once a week and their food isn't alive. What do they prefer? crickets and other insects able to get out and around the house OR a simple bag of frozen things that you take out once a week?

Also, I would talk to them about it. Tell them you like snakes a lot more and if you end up getting a lizard you'll just grow bored like other kids and just not care for it properly. Whereas a snake, you'd love forever and always be taking care of it.

Lastly, here's a short list of some snakes that pretty much don't ever get over 4 feet.

Male ball pythons
Cornsnakes
Most milksnakes (exceptions being sinoloans and hondurans, could be others)
Most Kingsnakes
Rosy boas
Sand boas (stay hidden a lot so they wouldn't see much of it)
Children's pythons
Spotted pythons

There's probably more but there's a good start for you.

GarterPython · 12-05-11, 10:54 PM

k thanks for the help. The not taking care of the lizard correctly wont work because I already have 3 Crested Geckos and I take care of them well. She knows im responsible because I have takin care of many animals over the years. She is not scared of them either because my dad used to have is own reptile shop, Way back. Lol. And when he had the Reptile Shop the snakes where his least favorite animals in the shop. I am going to try the, go to the pet store and take out the snake thing with my mom because I think she is a little unsure about them. She says why would you want an animal that does not love you or show any afection towards you. I dont really have an anwser to that statement other than. Because ive wanted one for a long time, ever since i was 4, and I am very intrested in them. Then she just ignores me. It took me 7 years of convincing to just get a lizard and a snake is a even bigger step. Im just trying to find ways to get more of a chance.

Thanks for the idea about Waynes garter snake thread I looked and it gave me a great idea of the ones I like. If I do manage to pull this off I think I will be getting either a Garter Snake or a Ball Python. Exept a ball python is kinda pushing it on the length limit. Like I said I dont want to get to worked up about it because my parents, espectially my dad, know how to dissapoint and they do it alot!!!!!!!!!!

**millertime89** · 12-05-11, 10:55 PM

If I were you, if you manage to convince your parents to get you/let you get a snake, get an adult of the ^above listed species.
2 Reasons: its mostly down growing, there's no "well maybe it'll be a freak and grow an extra foot or two"
provided it comes from a reliable source, you'll know it is eating f/t

GarterPython · 12-05-11, 11:05 PM

That is very good advice but my parents dont like selling animals so if I said, got a garter and it grew a bit bigger than 4 feet then it would be okay. They wouldnt be to happy but it would be okay.

**millertime89** · 12-05-11, 11:33 PM

if a male garter grows to 4 feet I might poop my pants, I don't think its possible.

mattchibi · 12-06-11, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by molson102

Yea this is kinda off topic but my parents said I could get one if I got Honours with Distiction in school. Anyway this is not happening but they said if I did it woud neeed to be at 4 feet max. What snakes are that short. Because if I do manage to get them to the point of getting one it will probably have to stay that size. I want a ball python but as long as I get a snake I dont really care that much. I also like Garter Snakes.

A male ball python certainly would only grow to around 4 feet, esp if you dont power feed it during its growth spurts.

How old are you? My parents were hesitant to say yes at first too, but one day I just brought one home and that was that. I am 20 though and I have a secure job to finance all of my snakes needs; however, this may not work for everyone. If you wont get one until they say yes, then you may have to face the reality that you wont be able to get one until you move out of the house, which really isnt so bad. If you are infatuated with snakes, lizards just wont cut it in my opinion.

The best you can do for now is keep being persistent, your parents will start to understand that this is something that is important to you, and not just an idea you like for a few months. Show your mom some videos of big breeders handling ball pythons to show how docile they are. Dont show pictures because they look a bit menacing to someone who doesnt like snakes, but the docile movements of a snake in a video might make it easier for them to understand where youre coming from. Either way, good luck! Do well in school and then they cant say no!