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08-13-11, 08:16 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Why a LIVE mouse? F/T are cheaper and don't put your animal at risk.
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08-13-11, 09:08 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
I consider $1.50 a week ..cheap... to negate the money talking point.
now as far as food inflicted damage to my snake...let's just call it "character" building...
if i wanted a flake food eater i would of gotten a fish...just my personal opinion. :shrug:
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08-14-11, 05:05 AM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
There is no real need to feed live except in extraordinary conditions - all you are doing is risking the health of your snake and causing unnecessary suffering to the mouse.
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08-14-11, 05:42 AM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
If you start feeding f/t just let me know I'm in NC now and breed rats but will only sell them frozen.
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08-14-11, 09:12 AM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Didn't realize so many were against live food.....i'm thinking now i should of kept that little detail to myself....
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08-14-11, 09:33 AM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
We're not against live food, just risking a snak's health. It is your pet, and you are free to feed it how you like. However it seems like an awfully big risk, for "character building." All my snakes strike and constrict their frozen food. Do they have "character?"
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08-17-11, 11:39 AM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Couple quick questions...
After he fed on Saturday he spent 72hrs tucked away in his hide...occasionally poking his head out ..but now he seems back on the prowl....what I'm thinking is, he is hunting for food again....mouse may have been too small or baby balls need to eat more then every 7days?
Also when i walk in the room he constantly paces back and forth in front of the glass of his tank. in doing he constantly bumping the glass or dragging his face against the glass...is this normal?
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08-17-11, 04:09 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Very nice! Awesome choice for a first one. Good luck to you
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08-17-11, 06:19 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
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Originally Posted by TalonNC
Couple quick questions...
After he fed on Saturday he spent 72hrs tucked away in his hide...occasionally poking his head out ..but now he seems back on the prowl....what I'm thinking is, he is hunting for food again....mouse may have been too small or baby balls need to eat more then every 7days?
Also when i walk in the room he constantly paces back and forth in front of the glass of his tank. in doing he constantly bumping the glass or dragging his face against the glass...is this normal?
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Does he jaw look out of place? He might be trying to pop it back. Also what's he humidity at? He might be getting ready to shed.
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08-22-11, 02:24 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
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Originally Posted by TalonNC
He was active til i got my phone out..then he gave me that "Wtf is that?" Stare
Two things i found real interesting.....
1. when i first got him i used facet water in his soaker....he obviously didnt like it....he showed me by relieveing himself in it...so i put some filtered water in..and now he is content...I'll be damned if he is getting bottled water...lmao..
2. when they said BPs are creature of habit they werent kidding....Goldie wakes up at 9:30pm everynite...not 9:29...not 9:31....9:30pm he is poking out his rock hide. set my watch by him....
when i bought him they said he was on rats....but he just doesnt look big enough... today is is first feeding....so i'm gonna try a small one...and see...but i'm skeptical...should i wait til his normal wake up time to feed?
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dont be worried about feeding him rats i've fed my royal rats since i got him (roughly your royals size)
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08-22-11, 06:16 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Cool snake! I am still a new owner myself but I have come to realize the signs my snake puts out when he's hungry. He chills in his log hide and pokes his head out then when I come close to the tank he will cruise up and down the front of it rubbing his face on it. I have been told he was getting ready to shed... But I will say the last time he shed the very next day he did this, so I take it as a sign he's hungry! I feed him every Sunday. Been giving him two mice till he's a bit bigger and I can give him rats. His neck stretches A LOT from just the mice so I wanna plump him up a bit before rats, haven't tried them yet though he may be capable!
From what I've read here though it's good to get your snakes on a regular feeding schedule. They can go for months without eating, apparently more so in the winter due to their natural breeding season. If he goes a couple days hungry so you can feed him on the regular day it doesn't seem like a bad thing.
I just try my best to get him into habits. He's always in his hide so when I go to move it to bring him out I always tap it lightly twice. Whenever I feed him I put him in the same Tupperware dish in the same spot on my floor. As soon as he strikes and coils I take the dish and put it in his tank so when he's finished he can go right to his hot hide without me bothering him by picking him up. Its the only time he's in it.
Then 2 days later he takes a big dump and I gotta clean it lol.
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08-29-11, 03:45 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Time for a little update:
Goldie seems to have finally settled down in his tank he nolonger frantically chhecking out every corner f the tank or trying to find a way out(climbing the top lip of tank).
He is finally using his hot hide(before he would curl up behind it or on-top of it).
Still having issues with humidity.....damn mesh top.....i have it covered with ugly foil on the heat side...and some plastic with with a towel cover the cool side the center mesh is still exposed for fresh air.
as you read above i fed live mouse(wth rat scent) two Saturdays ago. I (being new) felt this meal was too small as he killed and swallowed in under 5mins and his bulge was barely noticeable. this past Saturday i was caught out of town ad was not gonna be able to make it to my normal pet shop before it closed so i picked up what i thought was a small rat ...for the pet shop where i was...and took it home to feed...placed Goldie in his feeding bin...he seemed to recognize it and went into feed mode...either that or he smelled his rat....as i shook the the small rat into the bin i came to the realization that this small rat was NOT SO SMALL ....he was BIG compared to Goldie...but before i could react Goldie tackled the rat like a Baltimore Raven LB and used his entire body to wrap up...after 10ins Goldie unwrapped and began his 20min thinking session on how he was gonna consume this large meal. I felt it was to large for him....but was afraid to put my had in his bin during feedmode...so i let him figure it out...praying he would just say..No ad leave it..but to my surprise after 20mins of looking over it he swallowed it....leaving a NOTICEABLE bulge about the third of his body. i placed his fav hide(rock cave) into the feed bin ...so i wouldn't have to handle after feeding...he slinked inside and and i place his cave back in his tank....I didn't see him again for 5 days...scary times...HE WILL NOT GET A MEAL LIKE THAT FROM ME AGAIN until he gets bigger...strictly rat scented mice from here on out as i now know his limits. I video all feedings and posted this scarily large one on youtube....so tell me if you thought it was too large .... he emerged from his cave Thursday...and has been extremely calm and mellow ever since....i did not feed him this past Saturday as i felt that NOT SO small rat was a little to much....and will return to mice this weekend.
WARNING: If your against live food or overly sensitive please avoid the following links of Goldie taking on his large meal. And if you read you see I've realized my mistake and will try hard not to repeat.
Part 1
Ball Python(Goldie) tries a not so small rat Part 1 - YouTube
Part 2
Ball Python(Goldie) tries a not so small rat Part 2 - YouTube
Part 3
Ball Python(Goldie) tries a not so small rat Part 3 - YouTube
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08-29-11, 03:53 PM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Thats one VERY lucky snake, it doesnt look like he got a clean strike on the head of the rat and was very lucky not to get bitten.
Now you have him eating rats you really want to keep him on them,when he is older you are gonna need to feed a LOT of mice at each feed to satisfy him.
Next time i would suggest feeding a freshly killed rat and then the time after a f/t one.
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08-29-11, 03:58 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
Thats one VERY lucky snake, it doesnt look like he got a clean strike on the head of the rat and was very lucky not to get bitten.
Now you have him eating rats you really want to keep him on them,when he is older you are gonna need to feed a LOT of mice at each feed to satisfy him.
Next time i would suggest feeding a freshly killed rat and then the time after a f/t one.
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My thoughts exactly. The snake could hardly even fully coil around the rat it looked like and then trying to swallow it that was nuts. Why do you feed live does he just absolutely not take fresh killed or f/t? When I got my BRB she had never taken a f/t meal and she took a f/t scented the first feed and now she takes the f/t without scent every time and I've only had her 3 weeks.
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08-29-11, 08:43 PM
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Re: Profile: Goldie (My First Snake)
Just took the top off his Rock cave cause he was pass his normal wake up time...
eyes fogged over blue....*squeeks* kinda excited...first shed time with me....
misted him over...as well as entire tank after changing water....I'm trying to figure out how to keep humidity up while i'm away....humidity drops to about 50 when i'm away...
I heard Waterfalls could help...any truth to that?
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