mouth question... - Page 2

TeaNinja · 05-12-11, 12:20 PM

my bp does PERFECTLY fine in his screen top glass tank.

Millinex · 05-12-11, 12:41 PM

Screen tops do not hold in humidity, at all, they are absolutely garbage when it comes to keeping any species that requires decent humidity, period. Also, just curious why you are running a light on a nocturnal snake instead of using a heat mat?

-Mike

LLinz · 05-12-11, 12:43 PM

I ordered a humidity gauge, it'll be here any day now. I mist lightly ever other day, and a humide hide is not being used, he's never had one.
I've had him for over a month now.

infernalis · 05-12-11, 01:00 PM

I cover my BP tank with a sheet of plywood cut to size. works like a champ.

NennaMeerkat · 05-12-11, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Millinex

Screen tops do not hold in humidity, at all, they are absolutely garbage when it comes to keeping any species that requires decent humidity, period. Also, just curious why you are running a light on a nocturnal snake instead of using a heat mat?

-Mike

Could be one of those nocturnal lamps that are turned on after dark.

TeaNinja · 05-12-11, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Millinex

Screen tops do not hold in humidity, at all, they are absolutely garbage when it comes to keeping any species that requires decent humidity, period. Also, just curious why you are running a light on a nocturnal snake instead of using a heat mat?

-Mike

it's a che, there is no light. he sheds like a savage in 1 piece so i can't see how there isn't enough humidity. i have a little more then half of the screen taped on both sides to keep extra humidity in. if my BP eats like a champ every week and sheds perfectly i can't see how you are right. i agree screen tops make it much harder to maintain, but i do it quite easily. so saying DON'T do it, it WON'T hold humidity is bs.

LLinz · 05-12-11, 01:19 PM

The screen is 80% covered by towels, the heat is being kept in well, so I can only assume that the humidity is as well.
The stick on thermometer about his hide reads at 90, I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

Millinex · 05-12-11, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NennaMeerkat

Could be one of those nocturnal lamps that are turned on after dark.

Which are extremely worthless and just a pet store gimmick...

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Originally Posted by TeaNinja

it's a che, there is no light. he sheds like a savage in 1 piece so i can't see how there isn't enough humidity. i have a little more then half of the screen taped on both sides to keep extra humidity in. if my BP eats like a champ every week and sheds perfectly i can't see how you are right. i agree screen tops make it much harder to maintain, but i do it quite easily. so saying DON'T do it, it WON'T hold humidity is bs.

If you have the screen taped, it's fine, I was saying the screen itself is bad, most people use uncovered screen tops, which do NOT hold in humidity. If you try to tell me a normal screen top, unaltered will hold in humidity, I'll laugh at you.
In general, I tell people to stay away from screen tops, because in all reality- most aren't bright enough to figure out to cover it.

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Originally Posted by LLinz

The screen is 80% covered by towels, the heat is being kept in well, so I can only assume that the humidity is as well.
The stick on thermometer about his hide reads at 90, I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

Try saran wrap instead, towels never did overly well for me, and absorbed more moisture than held in.

-Mike

infernalis · 05-12-11, 03:51 PM

The reflection was a dead giveaway... (I'm a nut for attention to details)

TeaNinja · 05-12-11, 05:22 PM

im glad you saw the reflection lol. it's ok, i was just saying to say blatently that it can't be done is just dumb.

infernalis · 05-12-11, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TeaNinja

im glad you saw the reflection lol. it's ok, i was just saying to say blatently that it can't be done is just dumb.

anythings possible Zak. I love non conventional methods..

mykee · 05-12-11, 08:38 PM

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"Mike just left a forum where every word he said was challenged, he means well, he just has to adjust from being argued with at every turn. "

Well then Wayne, Mike is going to feel right at home....

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"I just got done killing off mouth rot and an RI on a ball python I got from some girl on craigslist. The Mouth rot was so bad you could see the puss/mucus oozeing out of his mouth. 2 weeks in the bin = good as new."

What terrible, terrible advice!
No animal that goes untreated with mouth rot AND an RI is EVER "good as new" again.
What it does means to you is that your animal fought off some of the weaker bacteria well enough to eliminate the outward, physical symptoms (with ZERO help from you I might add) and that the more resisitant bacteria (I can only presume that it is in fact bacteria, because you didn't take him to the vet) are not only still alive, but are more than likely hanging around waiting for a much worse second round against an already immuno-compromised animal.
Very irresponsible.
Newbie mistake on your part.
To flaunt your irresponsibility and cavalier attitude towards your animals health publicly is not cool, or helpful.
Keep in mind I have common sense on my side, so it is going to be a bit of a lop-sided arguement should you decide to go that way...

**Aaron_S** · 05-12-11, 10:08 PM

Well he's banned anyway but I'd like to just say he's partly right. I believe in getting a culture done for an RI. If it's viral you've got a long battle ahead of you. Bacteria is still a worry but it's easier to get rid of. Usually doesn't come back if proper husbandry is kept. Viral, doesn't really matter. I've known a lot of burmese pythons who get an RI and never seem to really "kick it". Probably due to the fact it's viral and people attempt to 'cure' it as if it was bacterial. As soon as you put the husbandry back to "normal" there is a relapse.

Ch^4 · 05-12-11, 10:08 PM

^^ Ninja poster...LOL

I was going to say something *smart* in my post, but I deleted it and posted what you see. I have a great deal of respect for academia (8+ years of college and still counting), but I will be the first to tell you (you as in name-caller), that nothing beats experience and Mykee is full of it--experience that is.

I guess that came out nicer than I thought?!

Ch^4 · 05-12-11, 10:24 PM

^^ gotcha!

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Originally Posted by LLinz

The screen is 80% covered by towels, the heat is being kept in well, so I can only assume that the humidity is as well.
The stick on thermometer about his hide reads at 90, I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

Try to get a digital thermometer/hygrometer (I prefer ones with probes). If you're on a budget, you can find them at walmart. It is good to know what the actual temps are and what the RH is, despite the covered top, for the sake of your snake's health.

Stick-on thermometers read the temperature of the glass, which is not the temperature your snake is being subjected to.

Keep us updated.