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05-09-11, 12:01 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
That was definitely either a dry bite, or a very low dose. Diamondback venom is pretty potent (Gotta know what your getting into)
Check out this link:
Justin's Rattlesnake Bite
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05-09-11, 12:06 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Of course! The more info the better! I mean common, you are on a snake forum... 
Interesting, I was at least close! I'd also heard that a Copperhead bite alone can't kill you without some sort of allergic reaction, but I wasn't sure and was hoping you would tell me. Where does the Mojave fit into that scale? I know its the deadliest of all rattlers.
I plan on owning a nice big NW Rattler eventually, I catch anywhere from 10 to 30 every spring at my favorite den. One of these years I'll keep one, still trying to get info about how a wild caught rattler will do in captivity though... Can you recommend a good hot forum? For some reason Venomland keeps rejecting my registration...
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Awesome im glad i was of some use hahah, Id say i know more about venomous then non venomous even though i own more non venomous.
On the LD50 Scale of Subcutaneous:
The Mojave Rattlesnake is listed at 0.34, The Black Mamba is featured only 2 spots ahead listed at 0.32, but the Tiger Rattlesnake is listed above both at 0.21; and the Subcutaneous is the accurate when measuring actual strength of venom in bites.
WC venomous snakes do much better in captivity then WC non-venomous, in my opinion; that is not a fact and is arguable. So a young WC Mojave would adapt to captivity under the right conditions quite well. (again my opinion)
To be honest this is the first forum ive ever joined, and the only one im a member of. So i cant really help you there.
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05-09-11, 12:11 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
Wow! I knew they were potent, but not that potent! I would never own a Mojave, too deadly, small, and fast. I believe they have the fastest strike of all rattlers as well?
Good to know WC hots do well captive though, hoping I'll have one, one of these days. If I did, I'd have it in a big display case style, stained, professional style piece of furniture in my living room. Pad locked shut of course... what a conversation piece!
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05-09-11, 12:24 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Wow! I knew they were potent, but not that potent! I would never own a Mojave, too deadly, small, and fast. I believe they have the fastest strike of all rattlers as well?
Good to know WC hots do well captive though, hoping I'll have one, one of these days. If I did, I'd have it in a big display case style, stained, professional style piece of furniture in my living room. Pad locked shut of course... what a conversation piece!
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Yea anything that reads 0.__ is extremely dangerous and in most cases cause some kind of permanent damage. I wouldnt doubt they have one of the fastest strikes, but im not sure.
That would be awesome! The few friends that actually know i keep these animals always ask "why do you have something you cant hold or touch". I always explain "there like fish but 100x more interesting" But a rattlesnake or a Cobra thats something i could watch all day lol. I wish i could see wild rattlesnakes in my area the only native ones to upstate SC are the Timber and Pygmy but ive never seen one in the 10 years ive lived here.
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05-09-11, 12:30 AM
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05-09-11, 01:01 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Yea anything that reads 0.__ is extremely dangerous and in most cases cause some kind of permanent damage. I wouldnt doubt they have one of the fastest strikes, but im not sure.
That would be awesome! The few friends that actually know i keep these animals always ask "why do you have something you cant hold or touch". I always explain "there like fish but 100x more interesting" But a rattlesnake or a Cobra thats something i could watch all day lol. I wish i could see wild rattlesnakes in my area the only native ones to upstate SC are the Timber and Pygmy but ive never seen one in the 10 years ive lived here.
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Yet another thing I've learned in this thread, I've always thought the Mojave was the deadliest of rattles, but then again I've never even heard of a Tiger.
Exactly! I don't see how having a rattlesnake you can't touch is any different than having fish you can't touch? Other than the fact that the rattler is dangerous of course... But so much more interesting! I think it would also give people that come through the room a chance to actually apply some of their curiosity about them, after they are assured there's no way the snake can get out
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One in a million right there, then again, Steve always had a pretty incredible way with reptiles, of all species.
I still can't believe it was a dam sting ray that took him down... He was my childhood hero.
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05-09-11, 09:23 AM
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Re: I got a new snake today
@ Jay ha i haven't seen that clip in so long! thanks for that.
@ Max Im sure alot of people haven't, there only native to extremely small patches of land in South-West Arizona, then into southern Mexico. Its an endangered species, only reaching around 33"-36" and is in fact the most deadliest of rattlesnakes. One escaped from the Atlanta Zoo awhile back lol.
Here's a picture of one.
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05-09-11, 07:48 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
I've seen a few timbers in a mountainous area I promised I wouldn't share the location of  We bring thick boots and paint roller extension poles for pushing aside logs and such. Haven't seen any in the last two years though :/
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05-09-11, 07:49 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
Seen a bunch of hots at PA reptile shows too, where everything is legal. Its strange, actually. I never bring money to those shows.
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05-09-11, 11:14 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
@ Coffee black
In mountainous area's in your area? Cause if its in mine you have to tell me. LOL
Im going to one in Columbia, SC on the 18th of June, i plan to take a step up and buy the Carolina Pygmy Rattlesnake, they are awesome snakes. Some are smaller than quarters lol.
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05-09-11, 11:18 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Originally Posted by KD35WIN.AS.ONE
Some are smaller than quarters lol.
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05-09-11, 11:24 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
What???? Ive caught a snake that looks like that before but the two lines going down its back with the black dots on either side were much more defined, but wow it was alot bigger than that. I didn't even know there was a snake that small! (besides those ones that look like worms) What kind is it?
Ha not quite as small but its an adult Pygmy Rattlesnakes (not the Carolina one im referring to there a very defined red color)
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05-09-11, 11:33 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
Wayne! That guy is DINKY! No idea garters could be that small...
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05-09-11, 11:36 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Wayne! That guy is DINKY! No idea garters could be that small...
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Not a garter. Newborn Storeria Dekayi. they only get 10-12 inches full grown.
Here is a baby garter swimming in a bottle cap.
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05-09-11, 11:39 PM
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Re: I got a new snake today
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Not a garter. Newborn Storeria Dekayi. they only get 10-12 inches full grown.
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My mistake, still amazingly small!
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