looking up?

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by Reptile_Reptile

sickvenom stop alarming the poor girl. kudos shaun.

You don't have the experience to comment on this one jr. Sorry.

[sickvenom]

Originally Posted by TeaNinja

i've seen my bp do that also. stargazing looks different.

I guess you have seen more cases of star gazing than I have? Geez some of you are dangerous with the 'info' you give out around here.

[TeaNinja]

Originally Posted by sickvenom

I guess you have seen more cases of star gazing than I have? Geez some of you are dangerous with the 'info' you give out around here.

think before you speak, you might as well be talking about yourself. the symptoms she stated are CLEARLY not stargazing.
if ANYTHING, you are overassessing the situation and pumping fear for no reason.

i havn't seen many cases of stargazing. but i have seen my BP doing EXACTLY what she said and many others. so does every BP that ever looks up have a stargaze?

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

there would be a lot more symptoms present if it was star gazing mate like chronic diaharea,regurgatation,unable to right itself if placed on its back,and looking drunk and out of control of its movements



when startgazing a snake sick with ibd generally falls back on its self with quite a thump unable to control its balance



i'm not being cheeky mate but please put a bit of thought into it before you alarm someone suggesting it may be ibd which can wipe out whole collections



as said i in no way wish or mean to offend you



cheers shaun

not to mention shaun already said it all

[Wolfus_305]

You can call me Kendra.

I really do appreciate all the comments and help. When I say he sways slightly back and forth he's not bending back... it's more of he's moving a millimetre forward and a millimetre back, and he does this with the entire length of him that is "standing up", not just the head or below the head.

I've youtubed videos of stargazing and wobbles and he does not look like that. He does not BEND backwards, he just sways very slightly, I had to move closer to make sure I wasn't just imagining him swaying.

As I have said. I will keep my eyes open for other symptoms that people here have warned me about and I will keep you updated on his condition. Seeing as he has not eaten since January 5th I think it could be more of a hunting thing as suggested earlier.

Thank you again,
Kendra

[TeaNinja]

kendra, when i first got my bp, i thought he might have a slight wobble or something also, until i realized it was normal.

check out the post i made, it's somewhat similar to this one.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...-question.html

[Wolfus_305]

Thanks Zak,

It's sort of like that, the only difference is that he's not doing it while moving forward.
have you ever seen those hunting dogs that when they see something they stand and point and hold very still? it's kind of like only vertically (with a teeny tiny bit of swaying back and forth, not bending back and forth)

His balance seems fine (except when he's super active and over extends)

he's still strong and when I tried to look at his belly yesterday he kept rolling over to hide it.

Thank you again!

[TeaNinja]

yea like they said he's prolly hunting. i've seen my bp do that multiple times. what i've noticed is they sway when they breathe. next time he's up like that and you see him swaying, check his breathing, they usually coincide.

[dshin963]

Yea my BP has done that as well sometimes never been a problem... It gets especially worse while I am scenting the room before a feed... Kendra I wouldn't worry too too much but if you want to be reassured you could always take him to a vet... better safe than sorry mentality

[Wolfus_305]

That's interesting, I will try to check his breathing if i see him doing it again

I plan on feeding him tonight, we'll see how that goes

[Reptile_Reptile]

I didnt give out any information jerk, i just told you to stop over doing it. i would trust shaun over you any day.

[Reptile_Reptile]

just to clarify i have never even seen you before.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Reptile_Reptile

just to clarify i have never even seen you before.

Why must you call him a jerk lol You and me both have never dealt with "Stargazing" so you are just as bad telling her its nothing and not to be alarmed when it could be something You have no idea what your talking about. Kendra take a vid and post it maybe that will clear the air

[Lankyrob]

Once again the name calling starts

Judging on the symptoms described and making only one assunption - that if there were other concerns you would have listed them - then it isnt stargazing but just normal python behaviour. All my pythons are seen to do this at some point, and as there are no other concerns i dont worry myself about it. When they first did it i checked out the stargazing vids and it this behaviour is 100% totally different to that shown and described by herp vets when they diagnose and advise what to look out for.

I partly agree with sickvenom when he says that you cant diagnose without seeing the animal itself, BUT, with no other symptoms described i think it is slightly over the top to immediately shout the worst thing it could possibly be. If you are concerned that someone is describing something seriuos then it would be better to ask tactful questions rather than jump in with a devastating diagnosis.

[TeaNinja]

thank you rob lol. that's kind of what i wanted to say, but my lack of ability to word things well is astounding sometimes.

[Wolfus_305]

I can't take any videos or pictures because I forgot my camera at university in a different city and won't be able to get it until May 10th.

I tried to find pictures online of what he's doing but none of them looked like it