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04-01-11, 11:46 AM
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Re: venomous???
wow good joke guys
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04-01-11, 11:59 AM
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Re: venomous???
Lol no joke he's the leading researcher in his feild Aaron s touched on what he sez and that's that though they contain venom most is not harmfull to humans or they do not have the means to deliver it to us but others do thers info on him and his studys all over the place http://www.venomdoc.com/
the interveiw I read is on another forum am I alowed to link to that?
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04-01-11, 12:14 PM
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Re: venomous???
I think the term venomous is kinda misleading in the sence that we associate it with dangerous but bees spiders and mosquitos have venom it just wont hurt us unless we havean allergic reaction
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04-01-11, 12:50 PM
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04-01-11, 02:10 PM
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Re: venomous???
Not sure about that, they are definitely poisonous tho. Wayne arre your lil guys venomous and poisonous??
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04-01-11, 03:26 PM
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Re: venomous???
Lol, where is wayne? - I'm very curious to hear more about all this~
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04-01-11, 04:06 PM
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Re: venomous???
I was going by the classification of colubridae for corn snakes (as I don't or will ever own one) being venomous. My understnding of the colubridae is being rear fanged venomous snake.
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04-01-11, 07:13 PM
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Re: venomous???
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Originally Posted by red ink
I was going by the classification of colubridae for corn snakes (as I don't or will ever own one) being venomous. My understnding of the colubridae is being rear fanged venomous snake.
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Ah, see that's where the inaccuracy lies...in one of his articles, the statement is made to the effect that although all colubrids possess the GLANDS, the constricting colubrids entirely lack the TEETH for envenomation (they are not even rear-fanged). Thus, they are not venomous, as the ability to envenomate is part of the definition.
Garters and Hoggies, however, do have the rear-fangs to deliver their (admittedly mild) venom.
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04-01-11, 08:13 PM
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Re: venomous???
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Originally Posted by red ink
I was going by the classification of colubridae for corn snakes (as I don't or will ever own one) being venomous. My understnding of the colubridae is being rear fanged venomous snake.
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lol thats not a very good reason to not own a corn snake. they are wonderful snakes  I bet you just like bigger snakes. Or have I misread your parenthesized statement?
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04-02-11, 05:10 AM
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Re: venomous???
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lol thats not a very good reason to not own a corn snake. they are wonderful snakes I bet you just like bigger snakes. Or have I misread your parenthesized statement? |
Don't and will never own them as I'm Australian....
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04-01-11, 03:59 PM
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Re: venomous???
I'm curious to know as-well lol, I've been catching garters since before I could walk and this is the first I hear of this lol.
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04-01-11, 10:27 PM
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Re: venomous???
im looking into getting a poisonous snake like vipers and i was wondering if anyone could give me some input on the subject, ive had about 13 years of experience with snakes.
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04-08-11, 08:39 AM
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Re: venomous???
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Originally Posted by colender
im looking into getting a poisonous snake like vipers and i was wondering if anyone could give me some input on the subject, ive had about 13 years of experience with snakes.
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If you are serious about it, get a mentor to teach you the ropes and get a few years of experience with hots under your belt. As a candian you cant own a venomous snake, but we do have a rattlesnake native to canada.
That being said, I have about 15 years experience with snake, and when i was 10 i started catching more dangerous herps, caught lots of vipers in the wild and after learning some hard lessons, DON'T ever handle a hot unless you need to, its a risk that generally isn't worth taking.
I'm not saying don't do it, im just saying that if you are serious about it, take the proper steps and do it correctly or you are taking a huge risk..
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04-10-11, 02:33 AM
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Re: venomous???
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Originally Posted by reptile65
I'm pretty sure garters are indeed mildly venomous.
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
Not sure about that, they are definitely poisonous tho. Wayne arre your lil guys venomous and poisonous??
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Originally Posted by whoaxmary
Lol, where is wayne? - I'm very curious to hear more about all this~
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Garter snakes do indeed posses a very mild toxin to basically slow down the struggle of small items like minnows and earthworms.
The toxin is known as 3FTx produced by the Duvernoy's gland at the rear of it's mouth.
However, I have been bitten way more times than I can count, draws blood, mild itch and thats it.
As far as poisonous, I'd never eat my pets, so I can't really say 
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