new snakes tomorow at 12 pm

[Will0W783]

Big congrats! Can't wait to see more pics as they settle in and grow for you!!

[Freebody]

here are some better pics 2 of the male jag and 1 of each female, 2 came out as soon as i opened the lid and put the container i took them home in their new tub, and the other 2 are still hiding in theirs thank for all the good luck everyone. i got a good feeling ill get albino jags later, the jags got white on him i never seen that before but then again i have not seen alot of jags so maybe im partially bias as im hoping so much lol and the hets or regular coastals i see are not so red, they almost look the color of most of the baby jags i have seen but with the regular pattern and darker of course but the redish brick color you normally see.

[ineedsoap16]

I've been addicted to a lotta worse things. Morelia is a wonderful thing. Can't waith to see how they turn out.

What is the possible pair crosing given those het%'s?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by ineedsoap16

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What is the possible pair crosing given those het%'s?

The percentages never really matter for what may be in the clutch if that's what your asking. If a single parent turns out to be a het then all the babies will be 100% het albino with some being jags. If both are hets you'll get 25% albino 75% non-albinos. 50% of the non-albinos will be het and the rest won't be. That's the 66% poss hets. I don't know how the jag morph works if it's co-dom or not but they'll be in there too!

[Freebody]

I don't know how the jag morph works either...yet but ill figure it out soon enough, I'm under the impression its the same way the albino works. as far as it goes i got real good odds i got at least 1 female het but if that male is not a het it don't matter if all the females turn out het, ill still never produce an albino. but at least ill definitely produce jags from all 3 clutched later so I can't lose even if i don't get lucky and have the male turn out het as well as a female.

[marvelfreak]

They're beautiful. On the Jag gene either they are jag aren't sibling don't carrie the gene. Mark explain it perfect in this thread. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/morel...es-jaguar.html

[Freebody]

a sweet that makes perfect sence if its got the jag pattern, it is a jag.....if it doest have the jag pattern, it isnt a jag.... thats nice and clear.

[gonesnakee]

As stated previously a Jag is a Jag is a Jag, if its not, it never will be or will never produce any either, without being bred to a jaguar of course LOL
Its pretty straight forward odds when breeding a Jag to a "normal" 50/50.
Getting quite the collection going now eh?
I'll be looking forward to seeing Henry in Red Deer this weekend, hopefully he stays away from my pocketbook? LOL Mark

[gonesnakee]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The percentages never really matter for what may be in the clutch if that's what your asking. If a single parent turns out to be a het then all the babies will be 100% het albino with some being jags. If both are hets you'll get 25% albino 75% non-albinos. 50% of the non-albinos will be het and the rest won't be. That's the 66% poss hets. I don't know how the jag morph works if it's co-dom or not but they'll be in there too!

NO a het parent does not make for 100% het babies, sorry.
Only using an Albino would guarrantee all offspring being hets.
IF the male & female BOTH turn out to be hets there will be Albinos & 66% pos hets.
IF 1 of the parents ends up being a het & the other not the babies will be 50% pos hets.
Due to this one may have to breed out a couple generations to prove out the parental & offsprings genes.
Best bet is too get a 100% het animal or better yet an Albino (ya right eh?) to be able to prove things out first go round of breeding, rather than another full generation.
Breed the het or albino to the pos hets & prove them out first breedings, otherwise it can become a long process, but of course worth it in the long run. Mark
P.S. thus why I broke down & grabbed 2 male Granite IJs to breed to my 3 50% pos het girls next year rather than just breeding them to pos het males or even het males. Reguardless of the outcome on the pos het females I know ALL the offspring will be 100% het Granites.
Working with only pos hets makes for a bit of a "crap shoot" & can take a 2nd generation of breedings to prove out some of the hets or not.

[Freebody]

hey mark, thx again for the womas and diamonds, they are so sweet your the man!! im so happy with how everything went,great snakes, great packaging, im very happy as for the the collection ya im getting a good one going now, i plan to become a breeder in around 4 years when all my babies im gathering are of mature age, not a full time breeder ill work full tiem just breed snake to buy more crazy expensive rare snakes and pay for all my toys and stuff and the food bills, you know how it is :P as for staying out of henrys pocket book LOL good luck wait till you see those albino jags whoooo man they are somthing special to say the least and hes got some pastel sugars and super pastel sugar balls that are incredibly salmon pink color. nicest ball python i ever seen... you getting the granite ij from don patterson? i was looking at them a couple months back. very nice! i wish ya the best of luck on producing them, in a few years ill probably buy a couple off you. check out the head pics site i posted a pic of the female diamond eating her first pinky rat since i got her from you right off her perch and ate it hanging upside down, doesnt get any cooler than them Thx again im so happy with them.

[gonesnakee]

I've actually had 2 male Granites already now for quite some time.
They are 2008s & both were obtained thru Don yep.
I have had 100% hets for quite a few years now as well.
In 2009 I got 13 slugs from my het to het pairing & she didn't do anything this year.
Problem isn't her IMHO but him, I have seen him show ZERO interest in her both years DOH! I did have a 2nd male that I sold in 2008 too, which in hindsight I should have kept & may have made some granites already?
Hopefully the 2 young males are super horny this winter & will breed both het girls as well as the 3 pos het ones as well?
I have 5 girls to try this winter anyhow & should at the very least produce some hets & hopefully some granites as well (tocuhes wood LOL).
When I got my first granite they were 4X the price they are now DOH! LOL Mark

[Freebody]

oh sweet, to bad the others didnt work tho, isnt that asways the way get rid of somthing because you figure you dont need so many,then have the one you have break and now your in need of it and kicking yourself, well in your case it the male not producing but just the general idea sounds like my bad luck lol. I really hope you get some this year, they still hold a good price tag so you will make some nice cash out of a litter, and they look so cool. i fell in love with the granite burns year and years ago and when i seen the granite carpet pics i was thinking OH thats perfect !! keep us posted on your success, i would love to see some pics.

[gonesnakee]

Ya I have approx $17,500 invested into the project so far, plus rodents, bedding, time etc. so I'm looking forward to hopefully seing some return on that LOL Mark

[Freebody]

wow, well in that case I'll cross my all my fingers ya lol it sounds like the price of them went way down then.

[gonesnakee]

First Granite I bought was 8G They can be bought for around 2G now, Mark