Corns and Hoppers. - Page 2

Smilts · 11-18-09, 01:58 PM

Some corns grow much faster than others I have several of the same age and there all different sizes, they all get fed exactly the same. I also have a pastel that bites me everytime I get him out but never bites my fiance, isnt that odd.

mary10 · 11-18-09, 04:07 PM

my juvie ghost bit me, **** on me and wouldnt eat for me when i got him, took him two days of handling to stop trying to tag me, didnt poop on me since the first time, and took him 2 atempts for me to get him to accept a meal, 4 days apart from each atempt they all come around sooner or later lol gotta love em!

ColbyKun · 11-18-09, 06:32 PM

Not housing. Ii want them to get used to each other though fo when im cleaning, so i cant trust them in the same tank for 10 mins. I would like to keep them together but wasn't really sure. I will breed them in future but I asked for a male ghost and female hypo stripe and when the package arrived the paper for both of them said sex unknwn even though i rang up and typed the sexes i wanted specificlly and the guy said they had them. Im glad too.thanks for the info. Any info on how to get them used to you so you can just pick them up care free because the ghost scares the crap out of me. I gave them a bath and them put my bare hand in so it would hop on so i then handled it. Just worried if i pick it up it in the vivarium will bite me. And not sure how th hell they are twice as small as my old snake but two months older? :S

mary10 · 11-18-09, 07:43 PM

you can sex them later on to make sure you have what you asked for, however they wont be ready for breeeding until shes about 3 years old and him alittle sooner, as far as housing them together i wouldnt, most corns are pretty laid back and you could probally trust them together, but if one is sick and the other isnt, putting them together just made both sick you see? and there parasites and the off chance that they wont get along. just as a note as well you dont have to bathe your snake. not unless there having shed issues or they were really gross for some reason. getting them more friendly is makin sure you hold them every day for at least ten mins, but for now leave them be to settle in and get used to there surroundings. corns are really simple to care for, good heat, good humidty, hides at both ends of the tank, fresh water, paper towel or aspen bedding....and a tank thats not to large for each one..oh yea and of course food lol. have fun with your new buddies.

ColbyKun · 11-18-09, 08:10 PM

thanks. umm since its the lx 24 vivarium, i cant put the mat underneath. ive taped it down inside it. is that okay? i have seen people put the heat mat on the side of the cage inside but that seemed a bit odd. any help? thanks. i ask so much cos i dont want another to die.

Michael Roth · 11-18-09, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ColbyKun

thanks. umm since its the lx 24 vivarium, i cant put the mat underneath. ive taped it down inside it. is that okay?....

providing your snake never pees... why can't you put it underneath?

ColbyKun · 11-19-09, 05:27 AM

the wood is a insulator. Not hot enough

mary10 · 11-19-09, 06:59 AM

the wood as an insulator might be ok to keep the heat away from the snake so it doesnt get burned but i would think that there is a greater chance of pee being able to run past the wood and possibly short out the pad, since the pad is used to warm the glass and would have the same effect by placing it on the side of the glass, i would be more apt to put it there. safer for your snake "just in case". it will have the same results.

mary10 · 11-19-09, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Roth

providing your snake never pees... why can't you put it underneath?

if im right and correct if im not but vivariums have like a wooden box built around them almost like a show case tank so theres no way to put one under the tank.

Will0W783 · 11-19-09, 10:29 AM

You can't put a heating pad inside the tank though, because that will be very likely to burn your snakes. Also, I guess the pee could be a problem, but since corns don't require much misting or anything I would be more concerned about the burning. Get heat tape if you must put it inside the tank and a use a heat lamp as well.

BP_okay · 11-19-09, 11:27 AM

Yeah, when cleaning, just go get two critter carries, with a good strong lid, or place some books on top, since they are such escape artist...Mary is so right..you just never know what they might be harboring and you don't want two sick snakes. If you don't have the money for the critter carriers, I would get some cheap deli cups, tupperware bowls, with a little aspen in them, so they can burrow while in their the temp enclosure. Also, I just keep my corn nearby when I clean, just to keep an eye on him...you just never know.

Traci
P.S. I am so glad you are so proactive with these corns...they are such rewarding pets, and as they grow, you will be so proud of them ;-)

ColbyKun · 11-19-09, 07:55 PM

Umm the LX24 has sliding glass doors. Pee wont go through the wood lol. http://www.rainforestsupplies.co.uk/...au%20Beech.jpg thats a pic of it. So it would be able to put a algarde heat mat under that? At the moment its taped inside at the bottom and the wire is through a little hole near the top. I stuffed the remainig hole with tissue so it cant escape. Ibjust went in the check it. It doesnt seem hot enough to burn it and she doesnt seem to feel anything when she goes directly on it. Its just 14 watt and not hot at all really. I taped over a lot where the wire inserts so she cant pee on it. So im pretty sure its okay. =] I got two new large exo terra faunariums because the LX24 is too big for the tiiny snake and I hate the other thing. Not even a proper vivarium. Its for plants. Works though for snakes but with the exo terra faunarium, it has a divider so i can clean it. =] Bloody ghost still biting me. Cant even pick it up properly. Got rubber gloves and rubbed themon me so got my scentand then picked it up. Still really scary. then take gloves off and let him go on my hand. does still get really jumpy.

mary10 · 11-20-09, 01:23 PM

she doesnt seem to feel anything when she goes directly on it.

nope your right and thats the problem and how snakes get burned, they dont have any feeling in there scutes to know that there uncomfy or worse yet burning, keep in mind your judging the temp by feeling it saying it doesnt feel hot....your warm blooded with an internal temp of 98.9 snakes rely on surrounding temps, so whats not hot or warm to us could be scalding hot to a snake.

Will0W783 · 11-20-09, 02:45 PM

It will take time to tame your ghost corn. A lot of baby snakes are nippy; it's a defense mechanism they have so they aren't as likely to be eaten in the wild. Just continue to work with him, and don't put him away right after he bites you- then he'll just reinforce the idea that biting gets him what he wants (to be let go of). Getting bitten by a snake is a pretty much unavoidable eventuality for snake keepers, especially if you keep baby snakes..lol. Almost everyone has a good bite story or two they love to tell.
I can tell you the best thing you can do is to not be scared. When you are scared, you will tend to be jumpier and more hesitant, and those behaviors tend to elicit a defensive strike from snakes more often than direct, steady motions. My fiance has a Nicaraguan boa that will bite me every time, because I know she is going to try to bite me and I subconsciously approach her with more caution and hesitancy. My fiance just reaches in and grabs her and she doesn't bite him.
I also have one corn snake that is not handleable. She's a beautiful snow, but she's just so aggressive that it isn't worth it to stress her out by trying to pick her up. She bites, rattles the tail, hisses, strikes, rears up, runs away, everything. So I just leave her alone and play with my other corns.

Also, as mary10 said, your snake will NOT feel the heating pad, but can still be burned. Snakes do not have feeling in their scales. It's the skin underneath the scales that feels, so when the pad burns her scales to a crisp and damages the skin underneath is when she'll feel it and then it will be too late. At the very least, you will be looking at a few costly vet visits, antibiotics and ointments, and you will have to quarantine the snake on paper towels until the wounds heal or it can get infected very easily.
YOU NEED TO GET THE HEATING PAD OUT OF THE TANK, AND NOW.
Every minute it is inside the tank is raising the likelihood of your snake getting burnt, and I'd hate to see you lose another one. Use a heat lamp on top of the tank, or heat the room itself, or use heat tape, or heat cable. Heat cable can be run inside the tank and does not get hot enough to burn the snake, but it also does not get hot enough to really be a sole heat source. A heat lamp or heat tape run on the inside TOP of the cage is your best bet. Please listen to this advice and get that pad out of there.

ColbyKun · 11-21-09, 09:08 AM

Argghh ****. I have to take the whole thing apart. Ill prob get a lamp next week when i get money because im 16 and in school, i dont have money all the time, plus it all goes towards the snakes.