Bathing water

[siz]

I just picked up a temp gun at the expo today!

[GoodSmeagol]

Originally Posted by gonesnakee

Luke warm is typically too hot for most snakes yep & as already mentioned there is no reason to be bathing them if their proper husbandry needs are met.

Yes read all posts before you respond, we all agreed we do not bathe our snakes.

Maybe stuff like Beardies & other lizards once in a while,

I bathe my dragon after each and every stool! which I stated earlier, do you not read?

but snakes ah No.

Once again, learn to read, we dont bathe our snakes

For all you idiots out there that think the water should be right warm YOU ARE WRONG & yes I say idiots because how many of you have experiences with folks putting their herps into thermal shock because they had the water too warm?

we never said 'right' warm never mind just WARM, we said lukewarm, which I classify as a little warmer then room temp.

All this touch crap is just that, crap. You guys can argue about if forever if you are so inclined though LOL.

I do not see any argument in this thread, simply conversation and debate.

The best way is to know the EXACT temp of the water & have it between 80-90F no hotter. 85-90 F water is COOL to the touch last time I checked anyway BTW LOL My fishtanks are 85F & the water is not warm when I put my hands in (a quick test without the heat gun involved). Warm water is typically in excess of 100F & can kill herps depending on the species.

As we all said, every one has a different external temp, and that anything to the 'touch' is not accurate and should not be used to judge, we all agreed

I have known of several cases where folks have killed their snakes bathing them in too warm of water in a matter of minutes (thermal shock), "but it was just lukewarm to the touch when I put my snake in though!" "Luke warm" has killed at least 1/2 dozen snakes that I personally know about

Once again, this thread was mostly to discuss IN GENERAL and we have all said we once again, DO NOT bathe our snakes.


anyway. KNOW what the actual temp is as everybody has their own opinions as to the whole luke warm thing (some are way out to lunch) & it is far from accurrate.

and finally a point worth posting, thanks, but we already established that


Mark
P.S. Temp Gun! Nuff said!

I do not trust a temp gun with water temps, surface temp is often different then internal temp, heh much like humans!


I use stick thermos much like what I would use to take my own temp.

MY test RIGHT NOW
Cold water was 2degree above my current room temp, 71F
What I would call lukewarm, is holding at 80, falling 1F every 3-4min
The hottest water I could draw from my tap, (i can not hold my hand under for more then a few sec. is.... 107F, dropping 1F a min.
so from 'luke warm' to HOT is about 30F

If you say your fish tank temp is only 85 and not warm, I would say your house must be pretty warm.

Mine holds at 65-70 generally. Which would mean, anythign above that, would feel slightly warm to the touch.

I think your entire post, is garbage, filled with garbage, any tid bit of information which you shared, has already been discussed, and agreed upon. So thanks for nothing.

Drew
P.S. accurate stick thermos designed to measure liquid temps(such as candies and other melted sugar liquids mostly. Nuff said

[gonesnakee]

No reason to be a such a DICKHEAD buddy. Just because you have already stated YOUR opinion on the thread does not mean I cannot state mine LMAO get a grip buddy. You obviously missed some of the humour as well. House is room temp BTW I fort one have plenty of experience that IS appreciated by some if you don't I suggest the ignore feature. I'll do my best to ignore you, no time for it. Mark
edit - to throw out my moist valid point to those that care. Its far better to have the water slightly cooler than to throw an animal into thermal shock. Many Colubrids in particular when it comes to snakes do not like much heat. Species I have known people to kill via thermal shock IE: "their luke warm" being too hot are Vietnamese Blue Beauties (watch with the aisian rats), young Corns (neonates & yearlings) & smaller milksnakes. Never heard of anyone killing any of their stuff with a slightly cooler bath ever. Nuff Said

[Smilts]

I was told to let the water stand in my snake room for several hours prior to bathing my ATB The water after 4 hours was 80 degrees. The heat in my Snake room is different than the rest of my house staying at around 82-83 degrees.

[Aaron_S]

There was one time Mark I was working a few years ago and we gave a western hognose a soak for mites and cleaned the cage. We came back shortly after to the tub with the snake in it and it appeared to have drowned. Maybe we put it into thermal shock. It never occured to me that could have been the reason.

[GoodSmeagol]

My reply to you was based upon you calling us 'idiots' for discussing this topic.
When we all have already agreed upon a fact(do not bathe your balls) half of your reply was based on THAT assumption.

Your post shared very little good information, and could have been condensed to a few lines.

[Kmef07]

do not bathe your balls

Lets not get carried away here. now i don't know about hygene in canada but here in the states we like our balls clean.

[Faequine]

Originally Posted by Kmef07

Lets not get carried away here. now i don't know about hygene in canada but here in the states we like our balls clean.

lmao, men and their balls

I bath greg, but then hes a Uro, and gets all dusty from his diggin. Then again wouldnt you do the same with a sand boa? No experince in keeping it, i just remember i had to bath the sand boa at the pet store.

[gonesnakee]

For all you idiots out there that think the water should be right warm YOU ARE WRONG & yes I say idiots because how many of you have experiences with folks putting their herps into thermal shock because they had the water too warm?

A general reference to people in the past who's bad advice lead to the death of otherwise healthy herps. No one here as you have mentioned stated right warm so why assume I'm referig to yourself? If I'm refering to anyone directly they will know it
When posting many of us make general rferences & just because someone else has stated something they think already deson't mean that anyone else out there in internet land can't do the same.
As for bathing a Sand Boa, most don't even drink water let alone soak in it. They usually receive all their liquids via prey as do many desert species. Mark

[Faequine]

That matter is even debated with Uro keepers. I fact ive seen sites where they debate if they should even be given water, i personaly give greg water cause the lazy *** always waits till the next day to eat, when his salad is all dried up. Lately he hasnt been touching it when its fresh.

[gonesnakee]

Even with lots of snake keepers some don't keep water in with their desert species & offer it rarely. Personally I always have water there for them, if they don't drink it fine, but is there for when they want too. Mark

[Aaron_S]

When I was caring for sand boas in the pet store we had a water dish in their enclosures. We would fill it, a very small dish too, and let it dry out. Do it once or twice a week.

[gonesnakee]

When I kept/bred them I always had water with them. never saw them evr touch it, but it was there. Mark

[GoodSmeagol]

Originally Posted by gonesnakee

A general reference to people in the past who's bad advice lead to the death of otherwise healthy herps. No one here as you have mentioned stated right warm so why assume I'm referig to yourself? If I'm refering to anyone directly they will know it
When posting many of us make general rferences & just because someone else has stated something they think already deson't mean that anyone else out there in internet land can't do the same.
As for bathing a Sand Boa, most don't even drink water let alone soak in it. They usually receive all their liquids via prey as do many desert species. Mark

Mark, thank you for clarifing, I took the start of your post as an attack at us, and felt THAT was unnecesary as we had agreed on the fact. I took it personally, sorry.

[gonesnakee]

No reason to be sorry, now I'm obligated to be to eh LOL. I can be somewhat anal on the subject. I'd rather come across anal & have folks err on the side of caution as a result of remembering "some arsehole" going on about it LOL Mark