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Old 04-23-09, 11:25 PM   #16
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Old 04-24-09, 12:21 AM   #17
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well i also have seen it written on several forums like herpcenter and repticzone which are way more advanced reptile forums.
Boy, you really know how to win people over, don’t you? Be glad that my Internet service went down just as I was beginning to reply to your multiple posts attempting to “prove” your information is correct; it gave me time to reflect on my response to your insulting post. If you think herpcenter and repticzone are so much more “advanced,” why don’t you stay there instead of coming here and insulting this forum right after joining?

Furthermore, from what I've seen on repticzone, using oil is pretty controversial and quite a number of people do not recommend it. In addition, I am a member of several other forums, and I have never seen anyone recommend oil treatments without getting shot down by other members of the forum. This has been true no matter which forum I’m on, including repticzone and my herpetelogical society forum.

In addition to the forums, I also have multiple snake books, including veterinarian John Rossi & Roxanne Rossi’s “What’s Wrong with My Snake?”, and neither they nor any of my other books recommends the use of oil for treating any reptile skin conditions.

Furthermore, Melissa Kaplan, an online source that several people in various forums have recommended, also does not recommend oil except in tiny amounts for removing retained eye caps. Furthermore, here's what she says about Shed Aid Products, which you claimed are mostly oil:

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They are, in a word, useless. Well, that is not exactly true. The primary ingredient, by volume, is water. Water is very useful to humidify and loosen resistant skin and help it shed off appropriately. The water from your sink, tub or garden tap works just as well as the very expensive water and minuscule amount of vitamins, emollients and other nonessential and unhelpful ingredients in the shed aid products
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Here’s the link to her info:
Reptile Skin Shedding

Frankly, I’ll stick with the information in my herp texts by very experienced lizard & snake keepers and the information provided on this, other forums, and my herpetelogical society site by the very experienced lizard & reptile keepers with whom I’m familiar.
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Old 04-24-09, 02:11 AM   #18
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Funny . . . after multiple searches of both herpcenter & repticzone, I could find only a few references to the use of olive oil, and the one person who tried it (for mites on a BP) ended up with a BP with more problems after the oil bath, which is what the experienced people here say will happen if someone uses oil . . . nobody really seemed to recommend oil much except for that one thread . . .
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Old 04-24-09, 08:31 AM   #19
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Speak for your own petstore. just cause the one you go 2 is run by a buncha idiots doesnt mean they all are.
i dont go to pet stores...
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Old 04-24-09, 12:19 PM   #20
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speak for your own pet store. mine actually have an interest in reptiles and have helped me a lot over the years
I have an interest in snakes...i'm researching them almost all day at work everyday looking at new morphs and learning as much as i can, but that doesn't make me knowledgeable. I don't care if someone has an interest it doesn't mean they know jack **** on the subject.

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i dont go to pet stores...
I don't either anymore they are overpriced and useless. I can get better info online from this and other forums and i can get better prices online for the same things they sell.
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