Pig-nose turtle

[Cloudkicker]

Wow, a few rare ones there. Do you recall what the cost on the radiated was?

[snoopy]

the price of the radiated have to see the size and colour of the tort
eg base to tort round 6 inch colour about 50% yellow and black will cost something like 1300 to 1500usd

[The Gawd]

my oppionion on substrate is that while providing a prope environment for the animal, you want to provide the appropiate substrate.... Also benificial micro organisims will live in substrate and help breake down waste, keeping yor tank cleaner loger.... plus if you regularily mantain a cleaning schedual like say gravel vacking once a week, or once every 2 weeks even, whatever fits your schedual will get rid of alot of waste that settels in the substrate..... And if you dont have a substrate any waste or un eaten food will be floating around in your tank clouding it and you will have to phisically take it out.... the idea is to try to recreat an ecosystem..... lasts longer, looks beautifull, animals are happier, plus their not so stressed with ever changing water conditions, ph, ammonia, etc.....

Just My Thoughts

Al

P.S. You dont even want to know what keeps my 2 130g turtle tanks clean...... lots of substrate with 25% water changes every 2 weeks, and 2 fluval 403 power heads.... thats it.... However i am building my own sand filters (biological filters) in 5g pails with one of the power heads pushing the water back in to the tank.....