Inbreed reptiles!

[JimmyDavid]

hehe. Seems like that girl had good genes. But again, is what's inside that counts

[mykee]

Jeff, what do you think? A girl in high school that makes her own clothes? OF COURSE she was hot, and I'm guessing really popular too!

[peterm15]

ive got an add on question..

i know its ok to breed a daughter to the father ect ect.... but when does inbreeding become not so ok.. like is it still ok to breed the offspring of the father/ daughter back to the father.. ect ect... so basically how much is to much

[Reticsrule]

and ill add another question, why do people breed snakes and then sell them as $75 each, $125 pair, $175 trio? if you bought a related pair from the same clutch, is it ok to breed them together?

[Jeff_Favelle]

if you bought a related pair from the same clutch, is it ok to breed them together?


Have you not been reading this thread from the beginning? Or did you just read the last post??? LOL! :P

[Reticsrule]

well i started in the beginning but then it got too confusing lol. so is it safe to breed two siblings from the same clutch when they come of age?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ya, its safe. Unless they are carrying lethal single recessive or polygenetic genes.

[Reticsrule]

ok i understood the first part, but........ nah i wont bother you again lol

[BoidsUnlimited]

I hear people saying that its "okay" to inbreed one generation, but I feel they say that just to save themselves a few bucks.

If you truely care about the animal at hand, and want to produce a certain morph, you would be willing to go out and spend the extra money on another snake//lizard from different parents.

I do not agree with inbreeding at all...

[Invictus]

As mentioned, being against inbreeding, you may as well just be against breeding. Your odds of passing on weak alleles actually INCREASE by outcrossing. You can't suddenly make weak genes from inbreeding. By inbreeding related animals with proven strong genetics, you are doing them a huge favor.

[Jeff_Favelle]

As mentioned, being against inbreeding, you may as well just be against breeding. Your odds of passing on weak alleles actually INCREASE by outcrossing.

Too true. Listen to what Ken is saying. Take a moment to think about what snakes do in the wild: How far do they travel to mate? Hmmmm...... Do they maybe live in DISTINCT population? Hmmm.... Do you have a favorite "herping" spot as a kid where you could go and ALWAYS find that garter snake or pool or tadpoles? Well those spots are part of a population. Possibly a subpopulation. And the genes are flowin' rampant within that population. But not outside of it. There could be factors like a road, a forest, fast-moving river, mountain, etc etc. SO snakes breed in little pockets, and not really outside of those pockets. Ever read those old field guides where it told you to release any wild caught frogs or snakes EXACTLY where you found them? Ever wonder why that is?

[Invictus]

Aye Jeff. Let's take Rattlesnake dens and garter snake den sites as another example..... hmmmmm..... funny how 100 garters one year turns into 400 the next, lol!

[JAdkins2451]

Originally Posted by BoidsUnlimited

I hear people saying that its "okay" to inbreed one generation, but I feel they say that just to save themselves a few bucks.

If you truely care about the animal at hand, and want to produce a certain morph, you would be willing to go out and spend the extra money on another snake//lizard from different parents.

I do not agree with inbreeding at all...

Sometimes you have to inbreed to prove out "new morphs".


Jamie

[Jeff_Favelle]

Exactly Ken!!!

[K1LOS]

I think it is tough for really religious people to accept inbreeding. I have seen them argue it in the past. I don't know, but i am guessing you are religious boids? Anyways, it seems pretty evident that a responsible breeder can inbreed his animals, keep a close eye, and in the end actually STRENGTHEN his line. This all sounds good to me.

How much of these genetics applies to humans and apes as well? Or is it all the same thing?

K!LOS