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Old 02-25-05, 01:47 PM   #16
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i remember my yellow rat. he was a rescue, and at first i really didnt trust him because of my past experiences with obsoleta, but he was actually a sweetheart, and was used in education because of it. they are wonderful snakes to watch, so active, especially with the climbing.
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I agree with you Katt - they are super cool!
I am going to wait a couple days and then I will bring them out again and just handle them.

Its not that I am soo threatened by them - I `m not scared of them biting me really - I am more scared that they could hurt themselves biting me or that they are too stressed. I definately plan on taming this puppies down. Although like Katt says they were very calm for her - it could be that they got yanked out of Burmation, thrown in a car and thrown into new cages - they may be just stressed about this whole move.
Who knows - i`ll have to ask the pet psycic - lol

They are great anyhow, and I can`t wait to have them comfortable.
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Old 02-25-05, 02:39 PM   #18
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I haven`t measured them - but they are over four feet anyways.

post a picture of yours!
Here is a couple of pics of mine.







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Old 02-25-05, 02:54 PM   #19
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Crikey.....did not realise they were gonna be that big!! At least you can see them in detail!!

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thanx Adam
heh - cool snake! nice pictures too


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Old 02-25-05, 03:34 PM   #21
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Beautifull snakes, both of you. Good luck with the breeding.

When we were deciding or not to purchase mine, she bite my fiancee, so we bought her! lol. She's doing much better now tho, settled comfortably at home.
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Old 02-25-05, 08:27 PM   #22
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more pictures for ya katt



That is the male



That is the female
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Woo!!! Now get some babies going!!!
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Old 02-25-05, 11:55 PM   #24
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Adam,

How old is your yellow rat? To me it looks kind of like a Deckert's Rat Snake; the Upper Keys variant of the Yellow Rat Snake. It could also be a 'classic' yellow that hasn't changed yet. Gulf Hammock Rat Snakes (Gray x Yellow intergrades) are normally not as richly coloured as your snake is. They are usually light gray with dark stripes and blotches.

You can find photos of each ‘subspecies’ on the net. You will likely have better luck if you search for the defunct latin names: Elaphe obsoleta deckerti (Deckert's Rat Snake) and Elaphe obsoleta williamsi (Gulf Hammock Rat Snake). Both of these subspecies were synonymized with Pantherophis obsoletus quadrivittatus which later became Pantherophis alleghaniensis. I can provide an explanation of the taxonomic changes if you like.

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