Sick video - extremely graphic

[dave68]

Reality is, most people have those types of fish for just that reason, not to sit and watch them eat flakes or pellets. Definately seen worse, (a caiman and a lrg guinea pig)! The video is pretty sick though to say the least, nothing I could sit around and watch.

[Paleosuchus]

See that statement you made Matt_K is exactly what i do. When i feed live to my ball i video tape it every time. The sheer power is outstanding. Does this make me barbaric? I dont think so, so in all this i myself have mixed views. What happen to the rodent is disturbing sure, but watch a few hours of national geographic or discovery. They had lions eating a juvenile elephant alive. While it was being devoured it was still trying real hard to get up. This video could be for many different purposes, show the power of these fish or take the other direction. So i guess i have mixed views. To make an animal suffer to that extent is disturbing/horrible but it happens and it happens all the time. If you can prevent it then you should at all costs is how i would take this, if you cant, its not like your doing something that doesnt happen every day somewhere in the wild.

[Matt_K]

If you can prevent it then you should at all costs is how i would take this, if you cant, its not like your doing something that doesnt happen every day somewhere in the wild.

Then I suppose you should be asked the question.. Why not feed f/t to your snake????

I wasn't saying I condone the video in anyway.. I think this video was taken for all the wrong reasons.. However, if someone wants to toss a live mouse in their fish tank to FEED their fish, so be it. I have nothing against it.. What I DO have something against is a bunch of kids video taping it and posting it on the internet for shits and giggles..

-Matt

[Paleosuchus]

Being the snake i feed the live too, ball python adult male. He wont take anything but that. If he would take f/t i wouldnt think twice about keeping him on live.

[ChunkyMunky]

*Edit* posted in wrong thread lol.

[Matt_K]

Those silly frickin' ball pythons!!

As long as you're not video taping it and posting it on a site like Consumption Junction, I see nothing wrong with it..

-Matt

[Matt_K]

Originally posted by ChunkyMunky
I bought a boa from a fish store

And even worse, I didnt know it had mites for about 4 months after I bought it. Haha, I didnt even know snake mites existed, untill I got on the internet and did some research. Just think of how stupid some of us would still be if there was no internet.

Dan, you jacka5s, make sure you're replying to the right thread next time before you click on 'submit'.. AHAHAHAHA

-Matt

[beanersmysav]

Glad I haven't had to feed live yet but the guy I'm getting my ball from has it on live he said he takes f/t but he breeds rats on a small scale and he partially paralyzes the rat so it wont hurt the snake which I disagree with, if it feeds on frozen, euthanize it first for the purpose of the snake.

Anyways yes fish may have a 3 second attention span, does that make them any less of a living creature? A baby human has about a 5 minute attention span....??? Get the point? Yes they can grow up to have much more but what about the extremely mentally challenged that can't learn their name or even keep from beating their heads off the wall does that make it ok to feed it a predator? I mean obviously not and I'm kinda on the same side with matt on this one, but as a fish lover I feel the same of fish as I do for mice and rats. My fish seemed to know when feeding time is and same time everynight were hiding away from the lights so they must have a better memory than people credit them for.

[philli]

I agree with matt.These kids are taking pleasure in seeing these fish rip apart the mouse.Is it nature..yes..but i think that some people really get off on seeing things like this.I think they post these videos so they can watch everyone argue over pain and suffering.I don't video every time i feed my animals...why would i?It is part of owning an animal..but i don't think that we all need to see this on here.

[Slannesh]

I'm of a mixed opinon on this one....

yeah it's a little sick to do that to a mouse and videotape it then post it on the net just to amuse yourself.

But on the other hand is it any worse than watching a lion take down an antelope on the discovery channel?

Both creatures are being eaten alive, the only real difference is one is happening in a controlled environment while the other is just observing what's going on in nature.

That being said, I haven't watched the video yet since I doubt it's considered "Work safe" so i'll have to get to it later.

But i'm really not sure why everyone is getting all worked up about a mouse getting killed here either. Granted very few of us intentionally feed live rodents to snakes unless we have no other choice... but many of us keep insectivores as well. No one cries for the crickets do they? I know my Leos sometimes will mortally wound a silkworm or superworm and leave them alone when they stop moving so much, often to just turn around and eat something more interesting.

I do have one comment for Dave68 though. I notice in your sig that you have not only a BCI but a Burm and what I assume is a Nile Monitor as well... Are you going to try and say that "cool factor" had NOTHING to do with your choice of pet? I have a hard time believing that... Most of us probably got into herps at least in part because of the 'cool factor' I have absolutely no shame in admitting that it was a big part of why I did. Then again I got my tetras cause they were 'cool' as well. It's not the bad thing that people seem to want to make it out to be.

Granted in any hobby there are the people who do stupid stuff it's definitely not limited to herp ownership.

Having a hot car? Cool. Killing some innocent bystander on the street trying to get away from the cops who are chasing you for street racing? Not Cool. Same sort of thing.

[Ptindy]

Recently I discovered a site with the Tsunami wave video clips on it and I kept searching the site a bit and I found a east indian man tied up and getting his hands and feet cut off. Now that is disturbing. I did feel sorry for that mouse or rat or whatever it was at the time but what can ya do? At least the piranahs got fed a little by it and it wasn't just killed like other mice whose trails under the snow get crushed by snow machines. Like Matt I don't appreciate that he made it a form of entertainment. I'm sure that mouse was in a state of shock. Here's an old post of a cerberus striking a mouse, it's almost as bad.

**Another movie of a mouse getting whacked***

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showt...threadid=52413

What's the difference??

Mike

[Kimo]

Originally posted by zero&stich
Let's see how those Red Belly Paranahs like a big old Black Paranah in the tank? For those who don't know, you cannot keep anything with a Black Paranah, or it's toast!

Other than that, people are deranged. How bout we all go to that person's house and slip a Taipan on the table?

Ever Seen An Oscar In a Paranahs Tank? Obviously not...
It Aint Pretty...

Josh

[latazyo]

yes I'd like to put some cichlids in a tank full of those glorified tetras and put them in their place

anyways, that mouse died to the fish in less than a minute, I've never seen a snake kill live prey in less than a minute (except of course for venomous)

but I agree, the footage is in no way disturbing, however filming that or watching that for pleasure is

[joey]

Bart--if that disturbed you so much why would you feel the need to post it?

just wonderin.

[Removed_2815]

Opinions aside, that video is difficult to watch.
Ryan