morphs

[Katt]

Jeff, I agree with a lot with what your saying, but I think you're getting a tad worked up.

I'm a morpher, I don't like the high prices, but you know what PEOPLE WILL PAY, and yes, it is money talking, but it happens with everything. Look at dogs and cats, that sickens me. Breeding dogs and cats, but people do it. I just do my part by NOT BUYING. I will of course pay for a morph that's affordable to me because I want it, it's pretty it's nice and I like it!

Some morphs are just nutz, ie ball pythons, but you know, that seems to be just ball pythons, other morphs, like those in corn snakes, are pretty clear cut.

Although I don't see why just cuz a snake is cheap, you won't touch it Jeff. I love my corns. Most I paid more than $20 for. Actually my high end corns, my blood reds, were the cheapest corns I ever bought!

Anyways, I like natural phases too, but I think the morphs are pleasing to the eye.

I'm not sure where rubbing in the faces come from. I enjoy the bp ads actually. They're funny.

This has come up in many a forum. A lot of people say it's because people are jealous and resent that they can't afford said animal. I agree, I've been there, I've been jealous and resentful, but that's the market folkz!

[crimsonking]

Why are there so many makes, models, and colors of the automobile? Of the toothbrush? Of furniture?........ Not everyone likes or wants the same thing.To me if we're not taking any animals from wild populations for these "projects" that is a good thing. A good bet is that a high percentage of the "normal" snakes in captivity are far from that-- with many carrying a "skeleton in the (gene) closet. There are some morphs that I don't find appealing, but others do. If not for what they represent (and look like) now,then what they represent for future breedings. I will always find it hard to beat a normal cornsnake in all of mother nature's beauty. She's been doing a pretty good job!! Have you noticed all the names that refer to food and/or its color? Licorice,butter, creamsicle,candycane, rootbeer,etc. When they get to devil's food or snickers-- I'm in!!
Mark

[lanalizard]

this thread is starting to get hilarious..i just think that, yes, i may not have the money to buy one of those 16, 000$ ball pythons..and i HIGHLY doubt that more than 5 people will wanna buy that snake morph...but i think that the higher the price, the more ridiculous.
yes, color morphs is what keeps the snake industry from being dull and boring with one normal color...but doesn't anyone respect that sometimes the natural color is the best out of them all and should be the ones costing 16,000$?
maybe i am losing my mind..but at least i have respect for the normal ones.

[morph]

i myself would have to totally agree with jeff i think that what he said was well written, and written, and written, and written.i myself would like one of those 30000 dollar homes please i wouldn't still have a mortage thus freeing up more money to buy uhoh MORPHS!!!!

everybody take a deep breath
scott

[Jeff_Favelle]

Great post Katt. A few observations........

See again we're consumed with what WE'D buy and what WE think is expensive. But whatever snakes are out of our price range, may not be in someone else's. We may never see 30 grand cash, but alot of people do. Its all relative and to call a price of something absurd simply because we cannot afford it is silly (IMO). Just because something looks so extravagant and overly priced in your eyes, it doesn't mean that it looks the EXACT same way in everyone else's eyes.

I'm not getting worked up. Unless of course stating my opinion is getting worked up? Ha ha... JK!

[Jeff_Favelle]

I fail to see where anybody said that they didn't "respect normals"?

[Jeff_Favelle]

I don't understand the competing arguments? We have one person saying that normals should be the ones that are $16,000 (impossible until they ban WC imports) and another saying that no snakes are worth that much? What is the real argument at hand because those are two VERY different statements by the same person and I would rather just argue out one point first.

Just curious.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Hey where'd everybody go?

[Jeff_Favelle]

Here I am, throwing shadow punches.

[Jeff_Favelle]

Ok people there are 47 users online, let's argue!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jason h]

I think that when we talk about morphs and there high prices, It is this high price that keeps them in demand to some extent if everyone could aford that 16000 dollar ball python then it would quickly reduse the price ( you can bet that first clutch of albino burmese pythons didnt cost no 300 bucks each as they do now)its like a Harely davidson because they cost an outrageous price is what keeps it one of the top selling bikes and "THE" most popular on the market, thus making it one of the most sought after,of course this is mho.

[Jeff_Favelle]

EXACTLY Jason.

[Katt]

When I first started with snakes, albino burms from Henry P cost $125. Now they are $250. Somethings weird here people! I've noticed that with a lot of stuff, that bothers me, and what really bothers me, is bp prices for NORMALS! Jeez, last year they were like $80 - $100!! Now it's $150 for a normal MALE! Yeesh!

[jason h]

thats cause there more in demand now because ppl are buying them up to breed to there morphs j/k lol

[morph]

ok im back jeff lets go!!!! oh wait i agree with you one of these times i wont though and look i can peck out at least ten words a minute.