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Old 01-03-05, 07:09 PM   #16
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here are some pics of soem of my cages. Some times it helps to see others setups for ideas ect... A word on glass if u have any amount of hard water it will stain the glass and it is extremly hard to get off with out chemicals. I hope u luck.

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http://oldworldchameleons.info/album...s.php?album=16

articles, some may not apply but good reads
http://www.chameleonnews.com/year200...gradients.html
http://www.chameleonnews.com/year200.../up_north.html
http://www.chameleonnews.com/year200...by_caging.html
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Old 01-03-05, 07:11 PM   #17
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ya.... like i said the temp in my room is cold.... i need all thoes lamps jsut to keep it up... i also have a space heater... my night time heat in the cham cage is 73-76 and day time 80-85 so i found that thoes lamps worh great.. theres nothing to retain heat...(until tonight) so most of it escapes... ... oh and ps... they dont seem to like it when you turn lights on on them... but sice itll be in the living room i figure your bound to have some lights on... so if you make a small box just above the glass you can hide a window blind in there and then at night just turn doun the blinds.. that way less night time light and a happies chameleon... and youll never see the blinds... ( unless let down)
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sorry for the second post... but pothos is a great hardy vine plant... itll climb if you give it a head start... it will climb toward the light... and if you go and invest into a steam cleaner youll save yourself alot of hastle... it kills germs and cleans really well... and will most likely get rid of hard water stains...

distilled water( i think) is whats best for your cham... it will also lesen hard water stains.....

the dripper i made i bought all the materials so the juice jug cost me 3 and the tubes 2 valves and a splitter cost another 3.. all from wallmart...
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Old 01-03-05, 08:16 PM   #19
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heh, blinds idea is actauly great, ill need custom blinds tho. ill never find the size i need. thanks for the pictures are links collide, ur cages are awesome. did taht problem arise with u about the glass by the way? if so, did u have any problems with ur chameleon "seeing" himself in the glass reflection and getting pissed? i really dont believe glass will reflect well enoff to do that and i know several chams as i said that are house in cages with glass and no problems. you guys agree with me on ventilation tho? in my previous reply? peterm, ur setup looks VERY aweosme. i love it. great job. but u gave me a great idea on the blinds tho because i was thinking about it myself actually. i think instead of blinds, ill just take some nice cloth used for like drapes or w/e and make drop down drapes and ill rest them on top of cage ans when the lights in cage are off ill just drop em down. thanks
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Yes i have problems with hard water om my one cage, i have keept a werner, a babie panther and a Honelli in the glass with seemingly no problems with reflection although my Ho isent to happy im not sure if it is that or not, and the babie veilds seemed to see there reflections in there too, I only use that cage because it is smaller and works well for my smaller chams i have had but i will never get another like it too much work in them. just my opinion though, *** for cleaning the glass hard as hell i have to dump the cage clean about 3 times with CLR or some other strong chemical and then rince till im happy it is clean, too much work IMHO.


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as long as you have the top mesh too.... it should be ok.. im sorry but what are the dimensions again
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hey collide have you tried the steam cleaner yet... i got one and it cleans glass great...
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yea i dont really like glass at all. Not very good for ventilation and like you said some chams can see themselves in it and freak out. Also that thing blowing next to the cage might not be a good idea. Any cool drafts are not good in the summer when the airconditioning is on, and it might be to dry of air in the winter with the heat on. I know it would be in my house.

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no no its not blowing at it, its not close enoff to the cage to make any cold drafts, just not going to keep the air in the room still. the air in the room gets refreshed tahts all i was saying. same story with drying out. doesnt blow directly.
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ya.... like i said the temp in my room is cold.... i need all thoes lamps jsut to keep it up... i also have a space heater... my night time heat in the cham cage is 73-76 and day time 80-85 so i found that thoes lamps worh great.. theres nothing to retain heat...(until tonight) so most of it escapes... ...
Chams need a drop in temperature at night. If you have yours in a heated house, I'm pretty sure the night temps are safe for a cham, no need for heat 24/7. You can safely drop the night temps to lower then 73-76 at night and not be risking the health of your cham, it might even be better for him.
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how low would you suggest... cause my room is in the basement so its cold to begin with... plus we use a fireplace to heat my house... but thats upstairs on the other side of the house... i keep my room at like 69-72 so the 150 w only raises it to 73-76...

it might be a little easier now that i have 2 sides blocked... it might stay a little warmer
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My panthers and jacksons chams were outside during summer with temps going down to the mid 50's before I'd bring them in at night and none of them suffered any problems. Indoors in winter, the room they were in went down to 65 F at night, no problems at all. If you check some good sources of info, you'll see they all mention the importance of a night drop in temperature.
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ok thanks... im gonna go back to my books right now
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