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Old 12-21-04, 08:19 AM   #16
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Either you need to get to know someone on the inside or you need to work your way up. You can work for Immigration but you will need to be bilingual in at least one additional language. There are many jobs out there. You can be a letter carrier then work your way into the higher paying positions. You can be a bus driver. These last two are unions so you can't get fired unless you really mess up.

Through college I knew a few people who worked with the government. They just "applied". You need to go to your local civic centre and see what types of jobs are available for students. They always offer something - it's all a matter of whether you are qualified. I worked in the post office (federal job, not necessarily a "government" job) and I worked inside the depot. I wasn't a carrier who were paid about $3 less per hour. I worked 4 hours a day and made just under what I made as an entry-level employee at my subsequent "career" job (the one I went to school for).
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Old 12-21-04, 01:23 PM   #17
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Nice, that sounds like it might be worth checkin out...
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Old 12-21-04, 03:58 PM   #18
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I heard thst the University of Victoria which I live near by has a herptology course thats pretty good.
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Old 12-21-04, 04:18 PM   #19
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what determines if a course is good?

if your paying to go to school for something that there are no jobs then your wasting your time and money, now if your doing it just to learn then by all means do it but as everyone has said there are not many jobs out there

if your going to school so you can apply what you've learned i would suggest a vet that specializes in reptiles or zoology

just my $0.02

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Old 12-22-04, 02:24 PM   #20
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Wow, I can't believe how negative many of the comments on this subject are.

I had a similar question when I was in elementary school and of course, none of the school staff had any clue even for career day. When I finally got to the graduate level, I decided to study wetland ecology instead, but went to a university with a faculty that was striong on the herp side of things. So here's some suggestions I can give you from my experiences.

First, a herpetologist is simply a person who specializes in Reptiles and amphibians. Chances are you are not sure exactly what you want to do in this field, but you obviously are interested in general terms. The first thing you need to decide is if you are interested as in just a hobby, or can you see yourself working in herpetology in the scientific field. If you are interested in sciences then university is the way to go.

There are many specific studies in herpetology (after you complete your PhD) such as evolution and ecology, teaching, nomenclature, phisiology, genetics etc. These are a few specializations but the list is probably as long as your imagination. If this is way you want to go then look for a university with a strong biological sciences cirriculum. Take lots of sciences and do well. Don't limit yourself, take anything and everything you can in biology including herpetology, evolution, ecology, statistics, microbiology (this is important to learn DNA analysis) etc.

Look for graduate schools preferably away from where you live (unless there is a great program in your home town) It seems that many schools prefer their graduate students to have diversity in where they live as it broadens your persective. When looking for a graduate school research the professors. You can easily do this on line now. Search for herpetologists, scientific papers, books by PhDs, then trace them back to where they are working. The only way to specialize is go get a graduate committee that specializes in your selected field.

What many people in this thread have said is true. You may be able to make more money as a plumber...but so what. If this is truly what you want to do then do it. With a masters degree in biology there are jobs out there that may not relate directly to herpetology, the the job market is not dry and your education will not necessarily go to waste, Federal and Provincial governments, Non Government Agencies, Consultants, zoos, museums all hire biologists and this is why it is important to take as many courses as possible. At the PhD level you can go on to research and teach at a university, or work at a higher level in a museum, zoo etc.

Good Luck! Just remember that researching this now is the most important thing to do. You don't want to complete 7 - 10 years of school just to decide this really isn't what I want to do, or get yourself into a program, then realize that you should have gone to a different school because your graduate committee doesn't have the background to sufficiently support you in your area of expertise.
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Old 12-29-04, 08:31 AM   #21
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I'm in my 3rd year of college and an undergraduate. My current major is Biology and I'm going for my BS (Bachelor of Science). Generally you don't start focusing on a field (ie. Herpetology or Ophiology) until after you're done with your core Biology degree. However, there are some undergrad classes that help you along the way.

Here's what I plan on taking within the next few semesters:
Vertebrate Zoology
Vertebrate Anatomy
Conservation Ecology
Evolution
Herpetology


Of course as I find the niche that I'm most interested in I'll slowly work towards that when I start graduate level studies... even though I'm pretty sure that conservation ecology is the path for me. If I can get a research job, that's great. For graduate work I plan on going to UGA and studying at the Savannah River Ecology Lab with Dr. Whit Gibbons and associates. I'm currently at GSU, where we have a decent Biology program but no real focus in herps. The only prof here that is a herp specialist focuses on Gopher tortoise behavior and ecology, rather than the ophidians that I'm interested in.
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Good luck on the SREL gig. There are some great research programs there! Oh and happy herping... there is no shortage at that site
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