Suggestions for animals in a river tank - Page 2

Double J · 12-11-04, 04:39 PM

Again, keeping day geckos or anoles with the toads would give you the "New World syndrome"... as these animals would likely die due to internal bacterial and parasite issues from living in an environment in which exposed to each others feces. IT is much like the way you get sick if you go to mexico and drink the water. Though the Mexicans can deal with teh bacterial load, we cannot as we are not used to it. Plus, anoles and day geckos prefer far warmer tanks than do the toads. These lizards mentioned need basking spots in the high 80's and low 90's. The ambent tempereature in the tank would simply be too much for these frogs. Firebelly toads prefer temps in the low 70's and will stress out if kept in the mid eighties for too long. Heat stressed frogs are not a pretty sight. Plus, the fire belly toads would tox these lizards out.
As for CamHannas suggestion... the anoles and green tree frogs..... again.... though they do come from the same geographical region, they inhabit far differnet *microclimates.* The treefrogs generally inhabit cooler shadier areas during they day out of the sun, while the anole are out basking directly in the sun, chasing around insects in the warmth. Creating both of these microclimates in such a small tank is next to impossible. The needs of one species would be compromised for another either way. It is far easier just to stick to one species. You will have far fewere headaches, and no dead animals.
If you would like to put some aquatic snails or small fish in the tank such as guppies, danios, or white cloud minnows, you could easily get away with that. Those would be the only other species would ever consider mixing with these por any other frogs.

Good luck... and keep the questions coming.

Double J · 12-12-04, 08:59 PM

Here is a great link to an article on "New World Syndrome"

For anyone considering mixing species, this is more ammunition against it.

http://www.livingunderworld.org/amph...rticle0007.htm

Jack · 12-14-04, 10:08 PM

I'm interested in that pothos plant. Is it aquatic or fully terrestrial? Also, do you get at a pet store, or just at a nursery?

Double J · 12-14-04, 10:15 PM

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I'm interested in that pothos plant. Is it aquatic or fully terrestrial? Also, do you get at a pet store, or just at a nursery?

You can use it both terrestrially or simply floated n water. It is the ultimate amphibian keeper's plant for that reason. I have it planted in soil, AND floating in water in aquatic tanks..... and thrives in both!

I would buy if from a nursery. Actually... Home Depot sells HUGE baskets of it for around nine dollars... definitely the best deal.

Make sure you wash all of the soil off the roots, and rinse the leaves off well. Plant suppliers often use a nice little cocktail of fertilizer and pesticides. That said, if you give the plant and its roots a good rinse under warm tap water, you should have nothing to worry about. And if you buy your plants from a flower shop or grocery store... DO NOT let them put any of that leaf shine crap on you plants... that stuff is awful, and remarkably toxic! It is a petroleum product. No need to worry... most plants do not have this on them... just a warning because it almost happened to me once, the woman at the flower desk at Zehrs almost used it on one of my plants when I was paying for it.

Good luck.

DragnDrop · 12-14-04, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by Double J
the woman at the flower desk at Zehrs almost used it on one of my plants when I was paying for it.

Should have bought it when Angie was on duty, ... she'd have known better

wiseman001 · 12-17-04, 10:30 PM

MY suggestion...... Don't MIX reptiles with amphibians..not " ALWAYS" a good idea..

If u do maybe tree frogs with anoles..FIREBELLY toads are agressive with other amphibians eat fire belly newts.

Double J · 12-18-04, 12:03 PM

Wiseman... read my above post on anoles and tree frogs... you shouldn't do that either... here is an excerpt........

" the anoles and green tree frogs..... again.... though they do come from the same geographical region, they inhabit far differnet *microclimates.* The treefrogs generally inhabit cooler shadier areas during they day out of the sun, while the anole are out basking directly in the sun, chasing around insects in the warmth. Creating both of these microclimates in such a small tank is next to impossible. The needs of one species would be compromised for another either way. It is far easier just to stick to one species. You will have far fewere headaches, and no dead animals. "

Double J