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11-10-04, 01:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Dec-2003
Location: vernon bc
Age: 56
Posts: 878
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Hey Slannesh, I was only getting at the fact that when I signed up to this site, the powers that be were asking for more contributors. I wanted very much to send money for a photo hosting account and no one would even return pms emails etc... then months later the buttons appear and they report that they
are not accepting money. As to the freeness of this forum. there are many forums on the net that are completely free as well. This isn't the only one. Sure there are alot of members but have you ever looked at the members list? There are hundreds that havent even made one post! As for the childish name calling whatever floats your boat. I wish nothing but the best for ssnakess I just don't think they should cut off member donations regardless of how big or small and if admin is too busy maybe appoint someone else that has more time to collect the money. Just my two cents!
Dave
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11-10-04, 02:07 PM
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#17
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Member
Join Date: Jul-2002
Posts: 4,768
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Well I don't like not having access to a service I'm paying for. I don't think that makes me a ****. If I'm paying for something I'd like to be able to use it. What is a reasonable amount of time to wait for the problem to be fixed?
People who complain about the classifieds which they don't pay for, now that bugs me.
Cheers,
Trevor
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11-10-04, 02:07 PM
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#18
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Member
Join Date: Mar-2002
Posts: 5,936
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"I just don't think they should cut off member donations"
The admins and anyone else responsible for donations probably simply realized now was not a good time to accept them and instead of making people angry that they had sent money but weren't quickly responded to, they simply put it on hold. I see that as a GOOD decision in the members best interests. Then again I am not an admin and I have no clue what the reasons are. But one can only guess that would be the reason, no? It's painful obvious no matter what they do, some members are unhappy. It's sad really as no member here is forced to be here.
Daver68, you seem to have quite a bit of ill will or bitterness towards the site. You always make little remarks, say there are "other" sites out there, claim because some members haven't posted recently this one isn't as good, on and on and on. You yourself say in the post above there are other free sites just as good as this one.
If you aren't happy then instead of constantly making snide comments, just stop posting.
I *really honestly* don't mean this is a snotty, or mean in any way. I am just trying to understand your point of view, you don't like it here seemingly, but continue posting? You said yourself there are other free websites out there, so why stick around this one you seem to disagree with so much? Just trying to help.
Marisa
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11-10-04, 02:12 PM
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#19
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Member
Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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Originally posted by BoidKeeper
Well I don't like not having access to a service I'm paying for. I don't think that makes me a ****. If I'm paying for something I'd like to be able to use it. What is a reasonable amount of time to wait for the problem to be fixed?
People who complain about the classifieds which they don't pay for, now that bugs me.
Cheers,
Trevor
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Trevor, it's been down for less than a week now.. What's a fair time to wait?? That all depends on the severity of the issue now, doesn't it? As we have said, it IS being looked at... I understand the frustration of not being able to use a service in which you paid for, I too have paid for my gallery, but im not going to keep posting and asking when it's going to be fixed because that is not going to make the issue go away any faster..
As far as sSnakeSs.com not taking any donations.. Believe me, they are very happy with the amount of people who want to give donations, and maybe in the future, those donations will be collected.. For the time being however, sSnakeSs.com is not in need of any donations..
Again, we just ask that everyone be patient with the Gallery Issue.. Obviously something is being done about it as there a few members who seem to be able to post pics as of right now...
-Matt
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11-10-04, 02:27 PM
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#20
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Member
Join Date: Dec-2003
Location: vernon bc
Age: 56
Posts: 878
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Marisa, please re read my post it was directed at Slannesh. I never once claimed I didn't like ssnakess, I just feel that the people who have paid money aren't being treated with the respect they deserve. No one is forced to be here including myself. I am not constantly making snide comments, just observations that people who have paid for services aren't getting them and aren't happy about it. Maybe if somebody could give some positive response instead of shut up and be patient. As a new moderator should you really be trying to push an active member, like myself away because you don't have the answers. How about somebody contact somebody that knows whats going on and let everybody know. Furthermore unless you feel the need to Ban me I plan on sticking around for a while yet and hope that one day this will again be the friendly sharing forum that it once was.
Dave
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11-10-04, 02:33 PM
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#21
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Member
Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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Dave, we're in the dark about the situation just as much as the next person.. I have personally sent out three emails to Admin asking for this situation to be looked at.. I haven't as of yet gotten a reply.. IM not sure how much more you guys think we can do here???
No one is pushing you away, it just seems that everytime an issue with the site comes up, everyone is so quick to play the 'there are other sites out there' card.. It gets old pretty fast.. Yes, we have thousands of members and yes, we have members who haven't posted on the site.. But we're getting new members daily and they're all welcome here, we're not trying to push or force anyone away..
So, I guess the only thing else I can say is.. 'Shut Up and be patient' IM kidding of course...
-Matt
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11-10-04, 02:34 PM
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#22
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Member
Join Date: Jul-2002
Posts: 4,768
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It's painful obvious no matter what they do, some members are unhappy.
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Yup and I think that is something that will never change.
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If you aren't happy then instead of constantly making snide comments, just stop posting.
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Personally I would have encouraged him to offer some constructive criticisms or suggestions for improvements instead of inviting him to leave.
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I too have paid for my gallery, but im not going to keep posting and asking when it's going to be fixed because that is not going to make the issue go away any faster..
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Just making a point Matt about the right to be unhappy with out being a ****. Being unhappy does not make you a ****. I didn't start this thread, I responded to it and will continue to do so as I see fit. Just like you can reply or not reply as you see fit. My reply had nothing to do with hoping to speed up the repair process at all. Nor did I ask when it would be fixed.
There is no point in asking what's wrong or when it is going to be fixed. Why it isn't working does not matter and it will be fixed when it is fixed, not a second sooner. The facts are it's not working and for those of us that have paid for space and can't use it we are being inconvenienced. Is it the end of the world? Of course not.
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That all depends on the severity of the issue now, doesn't it?
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Nope, not to me. When I'm paying for something 1 day is too long to go with out it or it cost me money. Very simple rule of economics. Every time you pay for a service and do not receive it you are losing money. How long should someone be expected to lose money? I'm not making a stink about this or emailing anyone because I know there is no point. It will be fixed when it is fixed and all the complaining and emailing and post in the world won't speed up the process but that still doesn't mean we can share our opinions on the matter here. Personally I think one thread about the subject where people can ask questions or express their discontent is a lot better for the site then a bunch of PM's and Emails.
Cheers,
Trevor
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11-10-04, 02:41 PM
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#23
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Member
Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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Trevor, I was simply stating that it has ONLY been down for a week now, so no, it's NOT the end of the world.. I also didn't say that you started this thread.. I could honestly care less about who started it.. Im just trying to do my job as a mod..
Yes, Admin are aware that there is a problem with the gallery and Im sure they are working on it.. And Im also sure that they feel like crap that those of us that spent the $20 on a gallery are without our service.. But honestly, what is bitching going to do??? Like you said, it will be fixed when it's fixed, not a minute sooner and not a minute later...
-Matt
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11-10-04, 02:51 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul-2002
Posts: 4,768
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But honestly, what is bitching going to do???
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What? Are you seriouse? What the heck do you think it's going to do...make us feel better of course! That is the whole point of bitching.lol I guess that is why I'm such a happy person.lol
See I feel better already. Now if only I could upload some new pics to the gallery that I pay for.*sigh*lol
Cheers,
Trevor
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11-10-04, 02:54 PM
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#25
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Member
Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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lol, I feel your pain man.. I took like 100 pics the other night and had nowhere to put em.. So I just searched out one of those free photo hosting sites and decided to use that for the time being...
-Matt
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11-10-04, 03:15 PM
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#26
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Member
Join Date: Mar-2002
Posts: 5,936
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"it was directed at Slannesh"
It's an open forum, and as a long time member who loves this site, I felt compelled to reply.
"Personally I would have encouraged him to offer some constructive criticisms or suggestions for improvements instead of inviting him to leave"
He has made MANY more comments aside from this one. Anytime there is a problem, he has always been right there to offer a negative opinion. Meanwhile he has other useful advice when someone asks a question so it can be quite confusing. Maybe he also needs to word his feelings better? A person can only do so much to encrouage someone to enjoy the site for what it is, while being patient with the bad parts. He himself brought up other websites, so it seemed that was the direction even he wanted to take. If not, then I took that wrong.
Being a new moderator has NOTHING to do with it. I have been a member here from very early on for one reason and one reason only. I like this website. There have been MANY MANY things that have po'd me about this site. But the bottom line is if the problems can't be fixed any faster, I don't keep goating this issue on and on. I simply wait. The people who have already paid for the accounts are the ones who have the true problem anyways! Either way it's none of my buisness and I am just trying to be a member and do the mod thing properly.
Have fun everyone and I hope we can all just be patient instead of starting to get at throats because of this problem.
Marisa
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11-10-04, 03:32 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov-2003
Location: Toronto
Age: 44
Posts: 945
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Just as a side note, if I remember correctly, the post made by Jeff stateing that he is no longer accepting donations also mentioned something about users with current photohosting accounts will not have to renew their account when the time comes if the policy of no donations is still in effect at that time. I know my time to renew is coming up soon so it will be nice to continue to have the hosting space without having to pay for it, just a note to the upside of the current policys.
But hey I could be wrong, so correct me if I am.
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11-10-04, 03:37 PM
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#28
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Member
Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: ON
Posts: 528
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Originally posted by Matt_K
Dave, we're in the dark about the situation just as much as the next person.. I have personally sent out three emails to Admin asking for this situation to be looked at.. I haven't as of yet gotten a reply.. IM not sure how much more you guys think we can do here???
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I think that's the root of the problem, and certainly something that seems to cause frustration. There are a number of people who have time to put into the site, and are doing a great job as volunteers, yourself included. However, none of those people seem to be "in the loop". There's a noticable absence of any administrative presence, and instead of empowering one of you to deal with issues, or take our money, there's just this empty void between the administration and the day-to-day operation of the site. I understand that Jeff has other things to do with his life, like earning a living for example. I just think if the administration doesn't have time to administer, they should turn the responsibility over to someone who does.
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11-10-04, 03:48 PM
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#29
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Member
Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
Posts: 5,000
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Originally posted by rwg
There are a number of people who have time to put into the site, and are doing a great job as volunteers, yourself included.
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Thank You
As far as someone taking money.. The whole issue is that the server bills are now being paid easily.. The site is no longer in need of donations.. Jeff's whole thing was that he didn't WANT to take donations but unfortunatly, had to at one point in time.. Now that he's not in need of the extra funding, he doesn't want to depend on the others to help out...
I understand where everyone is coming from though.. And yes, it is getting frustrating having to wait for answers.. However, I have been informed, minutes ago, that the problem will be fixed very soon and is being worked on..
-Matt
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11-10-04, 03:52 PM
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#30
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Member
Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: ON
Posts: 528
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Matt: does that mean no more photo-hosting accounts will be sold now that the bills are being paid easily?
Roy
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