PITBULL ban is happening today

[Shad0w]

MouseKilla,

LOL.. now that was funny ... LOL

[gonesnakee]

What are ya saying that I shouldn't go around walking my Pitbull wearing my Harley wifebeater to show off my forearm/shoulder tattoo of a crappy eagle while my boas hanging around my neck LOL ya some peoples kids just didn't get the attn. they needed from Mom while growing up or are lacking something else? Heh Heh Mark

[Vengeance]

I'm not sure if I am for or against the ban. In some ways it seems like a good idea, in others it doesn't. I'm still on the fence about that. But I have to agree with Mykee on using cars as an example in reference to pit bulls, that is just inane. Main reasons being that A) Cars don't kill people, people kill people, someone has to be behind the wheel of that car in order for an accident to occur. B) The number of drivers in Ontario vs the number of pit-bull owners don't even come close to each other, so how can you compare statistics that don't even come close. I'd guess (lets use a low number) 60% of the Ontario population drives. I doubt even 10% of the population in Ontario owns a pit-bull. But then that is just a guess and not an actual fact. C) Although both cars and dogs in general can kill people a car cannot act without its owner, it doesn't have free will or instinct, it's an inanimate object. A dog is a living breathing thing and can act of its own accord.

Comparing pit bulls to cars is really not a reasonable comparison.

[RepTylE]

Another example of bad owners giving a bad rap to responsibile ones and all pay the price. I am not particularly into pits myself but I have known really nice well behaved ones and few really aggressive ones. The precident of a provincial governmental body imposing an overall ban is very distressing........ what will they go after next??

[V.hb]

Originally posted by mykee
Kitchener has already banned them and I'm glad. A province-wide ban is what irresponsible pit bull owners need. As for the stricter fines for dog owners whose animals bite, I'm all for it.
Ptindy/Linds: Are you seriously making a comparison between an inanimate CAR and a living creature?! When was the last time a rogue car pulled out of a driveway and struck down a pedestrian? Car's don't kill people, the morons behind the wheel do. Pit bulls KILL poeple and other dogs. Wake up and while your smelling the coffee, read the paper.

Mykee, I agree with you 110%. Worded very well..

[nat_the_brat]

I have always thought it rather riduculus to ban the animal... they only seem to have high incidence of violence because you only hear about the bad ones. You never hear about the hundreds of well behaved ones. That said I do realize there are higher incidences of certain breeds being violent (that's what they were bred for in the first place so duh) I always thought that the emphasis should be placed on controling the people who own these animals... almost like a liscence so you accept full reasponsibility for the animal.. the " didn't know any better.. the dog has never been mean to mean... or I don't know how he keeps getting out of the yard and harassing people." excuse would be erased. I think its like controling a gun... it has the potential to be lethal and if something should happen to someone or another animal, the person who owns the gun should be blamed.. not the gun for going off. If your gun kills someone you go to jail for murder. I think this should apply to animals to.

[Cookie]

I am in favor of the ban thank you very much ..... After all can are cooks tree boas "trained to bite" etc no it's there nature as well as pitbulls THERE JUST SIMPLY NOT A GOOD BREED AND FAR FROM A LOVING HOUSEHOLD PET!!!!.. Thank You very much

[ChokeOnSmoke]

Cookie have you known any personally?

[BoAddict]

why are we on this topic again???
we knew it was coming.

but since we are here i will state my $0.02

any kind of ban is bad , i think if they want to do something productive they need to hold the owners criminally responsible

whats next for the list to get banned soon we will not be able to keep pets period

and dogs dont just go and attack people for no reason its the people that own them that made them attack as they are the ones that raised them, had they done it properly i bet that dog would never attack anyone.

Mike

[Leviathan]

I'm just trying to figure out the mind set of the people who are okay with this ban. You must agree on a good ol' reptile ban also then. Yes, Pitbulls have minds of there own and are able to act on their own accord, but HELLO, so are reptiles smarty pants! The blame lies in the fact that if these dogs were housed and trained properly by there owners (just like reptiles) and were unable to get out were they can hurt someone then there wouldn't be a problem. The reason they are comparing it to cars is because all these problems lie at the 'wheel' of stupid people. In fact, where I live, if an owners dog attacts someone and the owner walks away it is considered a 'Hit and Run'. Just like a hit and run with a car, it's the exact same offence... hmmm... fancy that. LOL!

[mykee]

Whether the dog is raised properly or not, housed properly or not, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum, ten years after this 'ban' has effectively been in use (as per the "Grandfather Clause") you won;t be hearing of any more pit bulls eating other dogs and snacking on people, will you? You know why? Because all the pit bulls that were saved by the Grandfather Clause will no longer be around. No pit bulls = no pit bull attacks. Furthermore, "You lnly ever hear about pit bulls attacking, what about all the other large breeds that attack" Of all the dog owners in Ontario, safe to say that 1% of them are pit bull owners (1/1000 people in Ontario assuming that 10% of people own dogs). Why is it that the papers are strewn with stories of pit bulls attacking? Why not dobermanns, sheps or rottis? Of that 1% of ownership, they are clearly accounting for MORE than their fair share of incidents.
"Next it's other large breeds, maybe even your labs, Michael" I' HIGHLY doubt that. Simple fact of the matter is, I don't put my dogs in situations where they have the ability to do harm to a dog, or a human. My dogs are ALWAYS leashed when out of the house, and are warned by ANYONE who comes close to pet my dogs (Read: RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP) Though my dogs would sooner run circles around you or drown you in drool, but regardless of what size dog you have, it comes down to responsible ownership. It's unfortunate that pit bulls have come between the crosshairs, but irresponsible pit bull owners have been given chance after chance, and children and dogs continue to be injured or killed. How many more kids need to be mauled before a ban occurs? Answer: 0. Good on 'em.

[Tim and Julie B]

Originally posted by Cookie
I am in favor of the ban thank you very much ..... After all can are cooks tree boas "trained to bite" etc no it's there nature as well as pitbulls THERE JUST SIMPLY NOT A GOOD BREED AND FAR FROM A LOVING HOUSEHOLD PET!!!!.. Thank You very much

That is 100% BS!

I have kept quiet through most of this. They are great dogs. Extremely smart and with that they can be trained either way. Problem is most morons get them because they can be trained to be mean. The aren't even on the top five list in bites. Labs are # 1 how many lab bans do you hear about? (Check with the CKC and AKC if you whant to know some facts.) None why because the media wouldn't get the same attention talking about labs. Rottweiller attacks someone it makes front page but a Rottweiller saving a girl from a fire is a paragraph in the back. Instead of being narrow minded and having people tell you what to think why not research it yourselfs and get the facts. It's amazing that everyone complains about the uneducated public's opinion on reptiles and wanting to ban them. And we bitch and whine. But here you are, doing it about another species. Being the same narrow minded tunnel visioned people you complain about in the first place. Way to go! Next time someone wants to ban your pets out of ignorance at least you will know were they are coming from.

TB

[Jayson]

I said it before and i will say it again, BANNing fixes nothing,
People who want a fighting dog will get a fighting dog, and they will still fight them just as they do today.
Dog fighting is already against the law, But strangly enough people still fight them.
Its just like triing to get guns off the street by making hunters register theirs.
When will the government realize that they can not control the bad people buy punishing the good?

[RFB]

Well I for one have researched it (see other pitbull thread) and if the CDC thinks theres a problem with Pitbulls thats good enough for me. You can say anything you want to about how a well behaved Pitbull is a great dog, but the sad fact is that too many people don't have well behaved dogs. There is no way you can regulate who gets them, so the only solution is to ban them entirely. Heck, handguns are perfectly safe in the right hands, problem is they don't end up there so we ban them. Same thing with Pits. Hate it or love it, it's done. No more Pits in Ontario. Say goodnight, the parties over.

[Jayson]

Thats just it though!! handguns were banned but people are still getting shot by them.